In message <fhm914dgkds7ak37ekf64agr2bs901eet7>, Jo Lonergan
<jolonergan> writes
>Everything changes when you're retired.


A long way in the future as far as I am concerned and by then I will not
be able to remember the things I learn.

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:14:31 +0100, K Richard Whitbread
<richard.whitbread> wrote:

>In message <fhm914dgkds7ak37ekf64agr2bs901eet7>, Jo Lonergan
><jolonergan> writes
>>Everything changes when you're retired.
>>A long way in the future as far as I am concerned and by then I will not
>be able to remember the things I learn.

I'm sure you will. I find that new stuff often fits neatly into what
you already know, though it's true that isolated facts, like where you
left the keys, are harder to remember.

On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:13:49 +0100, K Richard Whitbread
<richard.whitbread> wrote:

>In message <ekVY$QN9xOFIFwzk>, Jenny M Benson
><nemonews> writes
>
>The family have indicated that they are happy to reach an agreement with
>DID - I remember reading about this several months ago - but everyone
>seemed to think it would take a few months to come to fruition.

I misunderstood what the rights issue was, then. Thanks!

Jo Lonergan wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:14:31 +0100, K Richard Whitbread
> <richard.whitbread> wrote:
>
>> In message <fhm914dgkds7ak37ekf64agr2bs901eet7>, Jo Lonergan
>> <jolonergan> writes
>>> Everything changes when you're retired.
>>
>> A long way in the future as far as I am concerned and by then I will not
>> be able to remember the things I learn.
>
> I'm sure you will. I find that new stuff often fits neatly into what
> you already know, though it's true that isolated facts, like where you
> left the keys, are harder to remember.
>
Very true. I am beginning to find that new people I meet often remind me
of someone else I once knew, and I try to link them in some way to help
me remember the new name. I suppose there only are so many sorts of face
and after storing so many hundred in your brain, you have to put some
new ones into the existing files or something.

An alternative explanation is that the new people are in fact people
I've met before and I've simply forgotten them :-(

The trouble with the where-have-I-left-the-keys type of forgetting is
that the crucial details were never committed to memory in the first
place. All these "Improve your Memory!" books and tips give you ways of
storing the information in a way that will help you retrieve it (eg
memorising a shopping list). These techniques are no use at all when the
thing you've forgotten was something you've made no attempt to save in
your memory. If, when you put the keys down, you'd been thinking "Now
how will I remember where I've put these?" you'd have no problem, but
you probably came in the door, flung them on the nearest surface, then
plonked your bag or scarf on top of them and started unpacking the shopping.

On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:12:03 +0100, Marjorie
<dontusethisaddress> wrote:

>The trouble with the where-have-I-left-the-keys type of forgetting is
>that the crucial details were never committed to memory in the first
>place. All these "Improve your Memory!" books and tips give you ways of
>storing the information in a way that will help you retrieve it (eg
>memorising a shopping list).

Agreed. And the worst of them is the awful thing of associating ideas
with numbers (number one, gun, first item, apples, imagine apples shot
from a gun) Association works wonders with me for remembering a list
as a sort of stunt, but when you have to know what number your item
appeared at in a list before you can actually remember what it was, it
doesn't work, at least for me. I can associate in a long string,
though, for any length.

lff