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 #1  
13.07.2006, 22:53
michael adams
The woman on Newsnight is almost parodying to a tee
Chris Morris on the Day Today when he got two countries
to declare war on each other.

She was almost challenging the Israeli spokesman to declare
war on Iran right there on the programme.

You just couldn't make this stuff up.


michael adams
 #2  
13.07.2006, 23:48
Alan Hope
michael adams goes:

>The woman on Newsnight is almost parodying to a tee
>Chris Morris on the Day Today when he got two countries
>to declare war on each other.


>She was almost challenging the Israeli spokesman to declare
>war on Iran right there on the programme.


>You just couldn't make this stuff up.


Unless of course you're Chris Morris and Armando Ianucci, and the
others listed here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/ar...66602470.shtml
who made up The Day Today.
 #3  
14.07.2006, 00:20
JNugent
michael adams wrote:

> The woman on Newsnight is almost parodying to a tee
> Chris Morris on the Day Today when he got two countries
> to declare war on each other.


> She was almost challenging the Israeli spokesman to declare
> war on Iran right there on the programme.


> You just couldn't make this stuff up.


There's a lot of stuff you couldn't make up.

Yesterday, in this very NG, some idiot blamed Margaret Thatcher for the
mess that Labour have got themselves into with their top fundraiser
arrested on suspicion of selling peerages.

Incredible, innit?
 #4  
14.07.2006, 01:39
Heracles Pollux
"Alan Hope" <not.alan.hope> wrote in message
news:vuiq
> michael adams goes:
>>

>
> Unless of course you're Chris Morris and Armando Ianucci, and the
> others listed here:
> [..]
> who made up The Day Today.
>> --

> AH
> [..]
>>




I thought the silly cow had lost it too. She should stick to covering
dog-shit and skateboarding guniea pigs on local news and leave the global
politics to the big boys.

You don't become the Israeli Ambassador for not knowing how to bat away
these type of questions. The cow was shouting at him trying to provoke him.
The Israeli won 10-nil.

It just shows how biased BBC Newsnight employees are, unable to contain
their emotion and one sided stance instead of concentrating on objectively
conveying the facts impartially
 #5  
14.07.2006, 08:54
michael adams
"Alan Hope" <not.alan.hope> wrote in message
news:vuiq
> michael adams goes:
>>

>
> Unless of course you're Chris Morris and Armando Ianucci, and the
> others listed here:
> [..]
> who made up The Day Today.



The point I was making, and what you couldn't make up, is the fact
that she was sitting there on "NewsNight" parodying "The Day Today"
to a tee, while being seemingly blissfully unaware of the fact.

Same as the presenter who interviewed the "wrong Guy Kewney"
being blissfully unaware of that fact.

I just can't help wondering if the director or the production staff
set her up, as an in joke amongst themselves. She's a new girl who
used to be on Newsroom SE and seems to be very assertive. And
maybe they think she's getting a bit above herself. Dunno.

Presumably if she had sparked of an Israel-Iran War, there might
have been consequences. A first written warning from the BBC Personnel,
Department. Or at least something along those lines.

michael adams

....
[..]
 #6  
14.07.2006, 08:54
michael adams
"JNugent" <not.telling> wrote in message
news:nyja
> michael adams wrote:
>>

>
> There's a lot of stuff you couldn't make up.
>
> Yesterday, in this very NG, some idiot blamed Margaret Thatcher for the
> mess that Labour have got themselves into with their top fundraiser
> arrested on suspicion of selling peerages.


>
> Incredible, innit?


....

It's not really my fault if you can't see a joke when its standing
in front of your nose. Is it Mr Nugent ?

That's called "comic hyperbole" by the way. Another concept
which is clearly yet to cross your path, even at this advanced
stage in your life. Just how depressing is that, I have to ask
myself.(1)

quote of the week -

From Dr Nugent, the Group's Resident Telepathic Psychoanalyst.

> You're funny. I know you don't mean to be.


Well if I were you chum, perish the thought, I'd try and sort out the
fairly obvious defenciencies in your own understanding of the world,
before you start trying to work out what's going on in other people's
heads.

One step at a time, eh?

Anyway, there are now at least three things, which you've proved beyond
doubt in the space of two days, that you clearly know damn all about.

1. Indirect questions (1) - which you'd clearly never heard of - until
two days ago

2. Rhetorical questions - which you've still never even heard of - that's
the one you couldn't understand my asking, yesterday. As neither did
Barker of course, but that goes without saying. Barker being as stupid
as you are, clearly imagined I was being serious and desirous of an answer.
Which being the buffoon that he is, he then proceeded to provide.

3 And now comic hyperbole. Deliberate exaggeration and feigned outrage
for effect.

No Mr Nugent, you simply couldn't make it up.

People quite as stupid, and yet as blissfully arrogant as you are,
certainly don't come along every day of the week. That's for sure.

To be fairly candid with you Mr Nugent, I find dealing with people
quite as stupid as you are, and having to point out your manifest
deficiencies, fairly depressing and unrewarding, even at the best
of times. As it would appear that the depths of your ignorance
really do know no limits.

And yet as with many of your kind, you simply can't wait for another
dose of humiliation. Doubtless hoping no doubt that you'll get lucky
some day.

If, and only if, I ever have a frontal lobotomy Mr Nugent. Otherwise
not, I'm afraid.



michael adams

....
 #7  
14.07.2006, 09:44
JNugent
michael adams wrote:

> "JNugent" <not.telling> wrote:
>>michael adams wrote:


>>>The woman on Newsnight is almost parodying to a tee
>>>Chris Morris on the Day Today when he got two countries
>>>to declare war on each other.
>>>She was almost challenging the Israeli spokesman to declare
>>>war on Iran right there on the programme.
>>>You just couldn't make this stuff up.


>>There's a lot of stuff you couldn't make up.
>>Yesterday, in this very NG, some idiot blamed Margaret Thatcher for the
>>mess that Labour have got themselves into with their top fundraiser
>>arrested on suspicion of selling peerages.
>>Incredible, innit?


> It's not really my fault if you can't see a joke when its standing
> in front of your nose. Is it Mr Nugent ?


It wouldn't be if it were true, but I can and it's not, so it is. Your
fault, that is.

There is another poster in this NG - in this very thread, in fact - who
seems to have no insight into the writing of others and who fails to see
jokes when they are made.

> That's called "comic hyperbole" by the way.


No, it's called "denial". Many lefties such as your good self exhibit it.
For you, the Labour Party (and its luminaries) can do no wrong. If they do
any wrong or are suspected to have done something wrong (eg, enough to get
them arrested, or to force them to resign), it must be either the fault of
"the system" or the fault of someone else - probably Mrs Thatcher.

> quote of the week -


> From Dr Nugent, the Group's Resident Telepathic Psychoanalyst.


>>You're funny. I know you don't mean to be.


....which is exactly the point. You are incapable of the insight necessary
to a joke. When you blamed Mrs Thatcher for the crimes of Labour
politicians (admittedly, at this stage they are only alleged crimes), you
were speaking from the heart - as well as from a certain other part of your
anatomy.
 #8  
14.07.2006, 10:07
LeeJS
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 00:48:28 +0200, Alan Hope <not.alan.hope>
wrote:

>michael adams goes:
>>

>
>Unless of course you're Chris Morris and Armando Ianucci, and the
>others listed here:
>[..]
>who made up The Day Today.


I'm confused. You seem to be disagreeing by making exactly the same
point as Michael. Are you sure you understood what he meant?

Lee.
 #9  
14.07.2006, 10:55
JNugent
LeeJS wrote:

> Alan Hope <not.alan.hope> wrote:
>>michael adams goes:


>>>The woman on Newsnight is almost parodying to a tee
>>>Chris Morris on the Day Today when he got two countries
>>>to declare war on each other.


>>>She was almost challenging the Israeli spokesman to declare
>>>war on Iran right there on the programme.


>>>You just couldn't make this stuff up.


>>Unless of course you're Chris Morris and Armando Ianucci, and the
>>others listed here:
>>[..]
>>who made up The Day Today.


> I'm confused. You seem to be disagreeing by making exactly the same
> point as Michael. Are you sure you understood what he meant?


I think AH - who can, of course, speak for himself - was answering the
line: "You just couldn't make this stuff up" by referring to the obvious
fact that you *can* make it up - and that Chris Morris and Armando Ianucci
actually did so, for "The Day Today". It's the sort of point often made on
usenet.
 #10  
14.07.2006, 17:37
michael adams
"JNugent" <not.telling> wrote in message
news:nz2d


> No, it's called "denial". Many lefties such as your good self exhibit it.
> For you, the Labour Party (and its luminaries) can do no wrong.


Oh really ? So you really think I'm enamoured of the likes of
Tony Blair, Jack Straw, David Blunkett, Charles Clarke, Geoof
Hoon, George Robertson Gordon Brown to name but a few, then
do you Mr Nugent? Never mind Blair's tennis partners such as
Levy.

Because if you do then I'll have to admit I was wrong. I've made
a mistake. Its not something I often own up to but I have to
own up this time. Because I knew you were pretty dim Mr Nugent,
but I never really believed that even you could be quite that
stupid. To imagine even in your wildest dreams that I'd ever think
of supporting, never mind voting, for the Tory-Lites.

Dear, oh dear, oh dear !

....

> If they do
> any wrong or are suspected to have done something wrong (eg, enough to get
> them arrested, or to force them to resign), it must be either the fault of
> "the system" or the fault of someone else - probably Mrs Thatcher.


....

It was Margaret Thatcher who said "there is no such thing as society",
who didn't demurr when others said that "greed is good", that it's
everybody for themselves. Thus allowing her friends, greasy Tory spivs
and fat cats to a man, to fill their boots with Privatisation issues,
and double their money within months, at the taxpayers expense.

Not that many of that lot paid too much tax themselves of course,
you can be sure of that

As soon as anyone in a position of authority starts promoting the concept
of greed over that of social responsibilty, they're effectively
condemning that society to irreversible decline. Tony Blair is a self
proclaimed admirer of Thatcher, who's done absolutely nothing to stop
the rot. As both main parties vie with one another to assuage the greed
of the electorate. So that Gordon Brown is forced to sell the NHS down the
river with a plethora of dodgy PFI schemes. Simply because he hasn't got
the support of Greasy Blair to increase taxes.

Thatcher's legacy is a Country of fat cats behind high walls and security
gates, chavs, dole scroungers and benefit cheats, who see no reason why
they should be responsible to a society which doesn't exist. So they've been
told. Who see no reason why they shouldn't be as greedy as possible and
think
only of themselves and help themselves to whatever's going. And see no
reason
why they should put themselves out for anyone, when everybody else is
filling their boots. Rejoice !


michael adams

....
 #11  
14.07.2006, 18:13
The Man Whose Head Expanded
michael adams wrote:

> The woman on Newsnight is almost parodying to a tee
> Chris Morris on the Day Today when he got two countries
> to declare war on each other.


You can't 'parody to a tee'.

You can drive off from one, or fit something to it if employing an
idiom, but parodying is, I feel sure, not permissible.

Oddly, idiom is only one letter away from....
 #12  
14.07.2006, 18:47
Tricky Dicky
"michael adams" <mjadams27> wrote in message
news:sou1
[..]
> being blissfully unaware of that fact.
>
> I just can't help wondering if the director or the production staff
> set her up, as an in joke amongst themselves. She's a new girl who
> used to be on Newsroom SE and seems to be very assertive. And
> maybe they think she's getting a bit above herself. Dunno.
>
> Presumably if she had sparked of an Israel-Iran War, there might
> have been consequences. A first written warning from the BBC Personnel,
> Department. Or at least something along those lines.


<LOL>

I would like to see the letter issued by HR for that one

Where does starting a war between foreign powers stand in comparison to a
slap on the wrist for lewd behaviour in the corridor?

Tricky
 #13  
14.07.2006, 19:10
michael adams
"The Man Whose Head Expanded" <hauntedriver> wrote in message
news:1790
> michael adams wrote:
>
> > The woman on Newsnight is almost parodying to a tee
> > Chris Morris on the Day Today when he got two countries
> > to declare war on each other.

>
> You can't 'parody to a tee'.


....

Er -


" The OED defines "to a tee" as "exactly, properly, to a
nicety." Also written as "To a T," this phrase has been
around for more than 300 years. The original derivation
has not been proven, but the OED notes that "to a tittle"
was used in the same sense as early as 1607 in Francis
Beaumont's play, The Woman-Hater, suggesting that
"to a T" may be an abbreviated form of that expression.

http://www.purelytea.com/tea-language/tea-expressions/


....

>
> You can drive off from one, or fit something to it if employing an
> idiom, but parodying is, I feel sure, not permissible.


....

According to the above, an exact parody is a parody to a tee.

1-0

....

>
> Oddly, idiom is only one letter away from....
>


....

You'd know. You're the only person to mention "idiom", not me.

So much for those fancy words, eh?

2-0


Oh and thanks for posting, BTW.


michael adams

perm any 7 from 14 -
fish, hoist, barrel, a, shooting, log, falling, off, petard, with,
in, easy, as, with

....
 #14  
14.07.2006, 20:06
JNugent
michael adams wrote:

> "JNugent" <not.telling> wrote:


>>No, it's called "denial". Many lefties such as your good self exhibit it.
>>For you, the Labour Party (and its luminaries) can do no wrong.


> Oh really ? So you really think I'm enamoured of the likes of
> Tony Blair, Jack Straw, David Blunkett, Charles Clarke, Geoof
> Hoon, George Robertson Gordon Brown to name but a few, then
> do you Mr Nugent? Never mind Blair's tennis partners such as
> Levy.


If you don't, you have a funny way of showing it. You support them to the hilt.

> Because if you do then I'll have to admit I was wrong. I've made
> a mistake.


That's impressive (genuinely).

> Its not something I often own up to but I have to
> own up this time. Because I knew you were pretty dim Mr Nugent,
> but I never really believed that even you could be quite that
> stupid. To imagine even in your wildest dreams that I'd ever think
> of supporting, never mind voting, for the Tory-Lites.


Don't be silly. You say now that you don't support them, but it's been
different up to now. Perhaps the arrest of their chief fundraiser has
helped change your mind. That's a good sign, because it'll have had the
same effect on loads of other people too.

>>If they do
>>any wrong or are suspected to have done something wrong (eg, enough to get
>>them arrested, or to force them to resign), it must be either the fault of
>>"the system" or the fault of someone else - probably Mrs Thatcher.


> It was Margaret Thatcher who said "there is no such thing as society",
> who didn't demurr when others said that "greed is good", that it's
> everybody for themselves. Thus allowing her friends, greasy Tory spivs
> and fat cats to a man, to fill their boots with Privatisation issues,
> and double their money within months, at the taxpayers expense.


There you go - you see? It's a kneejerk reaction, whenever you see the name
"Thatcher".

> Not that many of that lot paid too much tax themselves of course,
> you can be sure of that


> As soon as anyone in a position of authority starts promoting the concept
> of greed over that of social responsibilty, they're effectively
> condemning that society to irreversible decline. Tony Blair is a self
> proclaimed admirer of Thatcher, who's done absolutely nothing to stop
> the rot. As both main parties vie with one another to assuage the greed
> of the electorate. So that Gordon Brown is forced to sell the NHS down the
> river with a plethora of dodgy PFI schemes. Simply because he hasn't got
> the support of Greasy Blair to increase taxes.


Yes, I read all that today.

> Thatcher's legacy is a Country of fat cats behind high walls and security
> gates, chavs, dole scroungers and benefit cheats, who see no reason why
> they should be responsible to a society which doesn't exist.


Gawd, you really have a thing about people on benefits, don't you?
 #15  
14.07.2006, 20:52
Thanatos
On Fri, 14 Jul 2006 20:06:23 +0100, JNugent <not.telling>
wrote:

>There you go - you see? It's a kneejerk reaction, whenever you see the name
>"Thatcher".


Not so much a kneejerk reaction, more a gag reflex.

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