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 #1  
07.07.2008, 09:05
firemonkey
http://harpymarx.wordpress.com/2008/...james-purnell/

The nasty little tosser needs therapy in the form of a bullet through
the brain at close range.

Come to think of it should be obligatory therapy for all those smarmy
authoritarian 'We should have multiple ogasms over the obscenely rich'
New Labourites.
 #2  
07.07.2008, 10:27
nigel
x-no-archive: yes

firemonkey wrote:

> [..]
>> The nasty little tosser needs therapy in the form of a bullet through

> the brain at close range.
>
> Come to think of it should be obligatory therapy for all those smarmy
> authoritarian 'We should have multiple ogasms over the obscenely rich'
> New Labourites.


A fair system would give help to those who need it, and deny help to
those who just want to take advantage.

Both parties have contributed to the current situation where the system
is not seen to be working fairly.

Evil Nigel
 #3  
07.07.2008, 12:21
humble.life
nigel wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> firemonkey wrote:
>> A fair system would give help to those who need it, and deny help to

> those who just want to take advantage.
>
> Both parties have contributed to the current situation where the system
> is not seen to be working fairly.
>
> Evil Nigel
>


yes, and research states that fraud is at max 1% and if your GP doesn't
do a report, the hospital that most recently saw you does it.
 #4  
07.07.2008, 12:41
nigel
x-no-archive: yes

humble.life wrote:

> nigel wrote:
>> yes, and research states that fraud is at max 1%


How does that research explain the large number of people with 'bad
backs' in the former mining communities? If over a quarter of the
potential workforce in a given community is incapacitated by a 'bad
back', shouldn't someone urgently be trying to work out why so that the
epidemic doesn't spread?

> and if your GP doesn't
> do a report, the hospital that most recently saw you does it.


The last case I commented on involved an ex-soldier denied disablity by
a doctor with whom he was unfamiliar. So who usually does the assessing
- your GP or government lackeys?

Evil Nigel
 #5  
07.07.2008, 12:52
humble.life
nigel wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> humble.life wrote:
>> How does that research explain the large number of people with 'bad

> backs' in the former mining communities? If over a quarter of the
> potential workforce in a given community is incapacitated by a 'bad
> back', shouldn't someone urgently be trying to work out why so that the
> epidemic doesn't spread?
>


yes, the other areas aren't hiring unaware people into monstrously heavy
energy destroying work for the sake of the wealthy!

> > and if your GP doesn't
>> do a report, the hospital that most recently saw you does it.

>
> The last case I commented on involved an ex-soldier denied disablity by
> a doctor with whom he was unfamiliar. So who usually does the assessing
> - your GP or government lackeys?
>
> Evil Nigel
>

the ex-soldier didn't fill out the forms properly? the ex-soldier
missed essential points of communication with said doctor? it took me 4
years to get the help i needed in DLA. i didn't know i was entitled to
it. i was never informed and it took over a year to complete the
process. there is nothing unusual there in my eyes.
 #6  
07.07.2008, 14:15
nigel
x-no-archive: yes

humble.life wrote:

> nigel wrote:
>
>> How does that research explain the large number of people with 'bad
>> backs' in the former mining communities? If over a quarter of the
>> potential workforce in a given community is incapacitated by a 'bad
>> back', shouldn't someone urgently be trying to work out why so that
>> the epidemic doesn't spread?
>>

>
> yes, the other areas aren't hiring unaware people into monstrously heavy
> energy destroying work for the sake of the wealthy!


Well, there is that. But the miners fought hard to try to save their
jobs when manic Thatcher was hell-bent on destroying the industry so it
can't have been that bad.


> the ex-soldier didn't fill out the forms properly? the ex-soldier
> missed essential points of communication with said doctor? it took me 4
> years to get the help i needed in DLA. i didn't know i was entitled to
> it. i was never informed and it took over a year to complete the
> process. there is nothing unusual there in my eyes.


The government likes to make things hard for people who are unable to
stand up for themselves.

Evil Nigel
 #7  
07.07.2008, 14:54
humble.life
nigel wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
>
> humble.life wrote:
>> Well, there is that. But the miners fought hard to try to save their

> jobs when manic Thatcher was hell-bent on destroying the industry so it
> can't have been that bad.
>

the ones that go down are always considered wimps, look at world war I
and conscientious objection for the most extreme example.

the miners were fighting for more money, and some were thugs, let's not
forget that they may not have been entirely fair.

the oil platformers got their cash though. Piper Alpha not withstanding.

>
>> the ex-soldier didn't fill out the forms properly? the ex-soldier
>> missed essential points of communication with said doctor? it took me
>> 4 years to get the help i needed in DLA. i didn't know i was entitled
>> to it. i was never informed and it took over a year to complete the
>> process. there is nothing unusual there in my eyes.

>
> The government likes to make things hard for people who are unable to
> stand up for themselves.
>


agreed.
 #8  
07.07.2008, 14:55
csaenemy
nigel <useweb> wrote in news:g4t8ea$ptu$1:

> Well, there is that. But the miners fought hard to try to save their
> jobs when manic Thatcher was hell-bent on destroying the industry so it
> can't have been that bad.


It was that or the dole in most cases. I think pride was a huge part of it,
being able to suppport themselves and their families.
I work hard for a relatively small wage, a large percentage of which goes
to my ex wife as child support to supplement all the other benefits she
receives from the government. She's the rich one, with the huge plasma tv,
new car, three bedroom house all newly furnished. I'm the one with 'Mug'
written across my forehead. Don't take away my pride in being able to
support myself and my family. I think this is how a lot of those miners
felt.
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