"Anna" <annaliddell> wrote in message
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> On Jun 24, 11:13 pm, "AndyC" <web-em> wrote:
>
> Perhaps, but how about people who are voting for an unqualified person
> JUST BECAUSE he is black? Isn't that racism too?

And your point?

> I think someone voting for someone just because he is black is as
> racist as not voting for someone because he is black.

And your point?

> But tell me, name all the black Prime Ministers you have had in the
> UK. Or even someone of Indian (Or Pakistani) ancestry.

Unknown, irrelevant. Race is not the issue it is in the US.

> My point is while Obama is Black in skin color that has never hurt
> him. In fact that has helped him greatly. Though the ironic thing is
> that although he is black in skin color he isn't Black when it comes
> to living in the American-Black (African American) community and sub-
> culture nor does he have the experience of living in an African
> American Family. And looking at his ancestry his family was never
> wronged by America or forced into slavery. In fact, the only
> connection his family has with slavery is that on his mother's side
> they owned slaves. Doesn't really represent the "Roots" of Alex Haley
> and most African Americans.

All I can add is a big "so what?". It's only the racists who are making a
big deal out of his heritage and skin colour.

"AndyC" <web-email> wrote in message
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>
[ in reply to "Anna" ]
<snipped>

Stop feeding the f***ing troll....

"David Looser" <david.looser> wrote in news:6cd810F3frmukU1
@mid.individual.net:

>> David you missed the point. Obama has NO SLAVE BLOOD in him.
>
> SO BLOODY WHAT? WHO GIVES A SHIT??


Yes, this is a problem. Obama's father was never a slave and his mother
was the swiss miss girl. Or so says one Stephen Colbert.

Stephen Colber (http://colbertnation.com) has a solution to the "he's not
really a desendant of slaves" problem.

Stephen suggest that Obama could be a "slave for a day" so he could get
"street creds". When people started to boo this idea, Colbert quickly
added that there would be nothing racist about this because Obama could be
Jessie Jackon's slave or Al Sharpton's slave. "No harm, no foul".

The Pseudo-Right-Wing of this country has solved the problem!


See the video at: http://tinyurl.com/2apus9

Marc <initial.surname> wrote in
news:r_adnZ2fUK3W7fzVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d:

> That's the great thing about ugly american roasting , it's soooooo
> easy, the majority of them have no idea of history beyond that sold by
> Hollywood.

Yeah, if they knew ANYTHING at all about slavery, they'd understand that
the biggest enslaver of blacks in the world was the Queen of England (and
her ancestors). It was the British empire who captured, sold and otherwise
enslaved africans to work in the new world, long before the United States
existed.

I think it's about time the Queen (the former richest woman in England --
now the 2nd richest after JK Rowling) make amends for her family's past and
pay reparations to the former slaves.

I wouldn't suggest that anyone hold their breath waiting for that to
happen.

"Richard C." <post-age> wrote in news:h8-
dnbCQCPaA_P_VnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d:

> I have zero love for Obama, but even less for you!
> You are such an idiot.

Richard was so hoping for Hillary. :-)

On Jun 24, 6:04 pm, john_purbr...@yahoo.com wrote:
....something or other.

Hey ho hey ho, off to the Eastern Naturist Gathering I go, so no more
pearls of wisdom from my direction for a few days. David, you'd be
better off ignoring that person.

"Terry J. Wood" <TerryJWood> wrote in message
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> Marc <initial.surname> wrote in
> news:r_adnZ2fUK3W7fzVnZ2dnUVZ8rGdnZ2d:
>> Yeah, if they knew ANYTHING at all about slavery, they'd understand that
> the biggest enslaver of blacks in the world was the Queen of England (and
> her ancestors). It was the British empire who captured, sold and
> otherwise
> enslaved africans to work in the new world, long before the United States
> existed.
>
> I think it's about time the Queen (the former richest woman in England --
> now the 2nd richest after JK Rowling) make amends for her family's past
> and
> pay reparations to the former slaves.
>

But that would absolve the African tribal chiefs who sold their own people
into slavery. But again we're off topic aren't we?

On Jun 25, 1:01 pm, "Terry J. Wood" <TerryJW> wrote:
> "David Looser" <davidloo> wrote in news:6cd810F3frmukU1
> @mid.individual.net:
>>
> Yes, this is a problem. Obama's father was never a slave and his mother
> was the swiss miss girl. Or so says one Stephen Colbert.
>
> Stephen Colber ([..]) has a solution to the "he's not
> really a desendant of slaves" problem.
>
> Stephen suggest that Obama could be a "slave for a day" so he could get
> "street creds". When people started to boo this idea, Colbert quickly
> added that there would be nothing racist about this because Obama could be
> Jessie Jackon's slave or Al Sharpton's slave. "No harm, no foul".

Even if that solved the "he's not really a descendant of slaves"
problem how does he deal with the "he never grew up in the hood"
problem.

Well I guess growing up without a black father is a common African
American experience. But not growing up raised by some Indonesian guy,
a white woman, and her white parents. The only time I heard about
black children being raised in all non white family are in television
shows like "Different Strokes" (although at least Arnold had his
brother) and "Webster".

Obama was privileged to live in a fancy neighborhood in Hawaii
surrounded by white people. And before that his mysterious years in
Indonesia. Hardly representative of the African American Experience in
America.

"Terry J. Wood" <TerryJWood> wrote in message
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> "Richard C." <post-age> wrote in news:h8-
> dnbCQCPaA_P_VnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d:
>
>> I have zero love for Obama, but even less for you!
>> You are such an idiot.
>
> Richard was so hoping for Hillary. :-)

================================
In your dreams!
;-)

Mark wrote:

> But that would absolve the African tribal chiefs who sold their own people
> into slavery.

I wonder if Obama's Father's Ancestors were African tribal chiefs who
sold their own people into slavery.

Wouldn't that be something! Obama's Father's Ancestors caught them
and Obama's Mother's ancestors bought them.

Again, proving that Obama isn't "Black" in the sense that he has no
ancestors who were slaves and the only people who raised him were his
white mama, some Indonesian guy, and his racist white granny and her
husband.

"Mark" <allnude> wrote in
news:QOOdnbxUovNWUf_VnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d:

> But that would absolve the African tribal chiefs who sold their own
> people into slavery.

Those tribal cheefs don't have any money. The Queen is rolling in it.

> But again we're off topic aren't we?

OK, those NAKED tribal cheefs don't have any money. The Queen, who's naked
under who clothes (and her crown) is rolling in it.

"Richard C." <post-age> wrote in news:ccydnZkV-
vMza__VnZ2dnUVZ_ofinZ2d:

>> Richard was so hoping for Hillary. :-)

> In your dreams!
> ;-)

Actually, in HER dreams! (She needed every vote she could possibly get).

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:12:59 +0100, "AndyC"
<web-email> wrote:

>
>"Anna" <annaliddell> wrote in message
>news:999a

....
>> I think someone voting for someone just because he is black is as
>> racist as not voting for someone because he is black.
>
>And your point?

His point is that because they aren't racist, they certainly can't be
voting for him because he's black. And we can verify that. As anybody
can plainly see, he's more of a toasty brown... not black at all. A
person would have to be blind to vote for him because he was black.

:-)

On Jun 26, 11:54 pm, Stuffed Tiger <No> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:12:59 +0100, "AndyC"
>
> <web-em> wrote:
>> ...
>>
> His point is that because they aren't racist, they certainly can't be
> voting for him because he's black. And we can verify that. As anybody
> can plainly see, he's more of a toasty brown... not black at all. A
> person would have to be blind to vote for him because he was black.
>
> :-)

he is interracial....have you taken the time to review the life of a
couple that is alienated from the normal standard society.....usually
these couples seek out an area or community where there are other
couples like them where their kids are seen as not normal to a lot of
other kids...thats not good for the kids....it also is not good to
have parents that are nudist.....whew...glad we got that
straight....all things should be considered when children are involved
to not make their lives unpleasant and abnormal.....jz

Just found this out. Legally Obama is a Arab.

Here are the facts.

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/200...ut-ethnic.html

http://tinyurl.com/yp6u5o

Kenyan Obamas are listed in the Kenyan census as Arab African not as
Tribal 'Black' African. His father's great great grandmother was a
Tribal African.

Therefore by ethnic lines Obama is is 50% Caucasian, 43.75% Arab, and
6.25% Black African (from where the Senator gets his skin
pigmentation)

His FATHER would be considered African American (had he ever become an
US citizen which he never did, he remained Kenyan for all his life and
except for going to the University in Hawaii where he met Obama's
Mother I don't know if he even set foot in America), because the
thresh-hold is 12.5 percent. But Obama can't claim that any longer.

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/32628.html

So it looks pretty clear that Obama's ancestry is that of white slave
owners and Arab Slave traders.

Yet he CLAIMS that he will be the first African American President.
That's a LIE!