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 #1  
21.07.2003, 06:36
Cricketislife!
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From the link
/
"England, Their England
A.G.MacDonnell's classic Novel

England, Their England is a novel written in the 1930s. This novel has
a chapter on Cricket, that is considered to be one of the best fiction
writings on the game, and the funniest account of a cricket match. It
is an excellent piece of humor. This is a must read for cricket lovers
everywhere.
I had read this novel long ago, and managed to get a copy of this
book recently. I typed out the chapter on cricket, so that everyone
can enjoy this book. Go right in, and laugh all you can!
- Balaji Srinivasan."
/
 #2  
21.07.2003, 12:23
Jayen
Cricketislife! <cil!> wrote in message news:p48g
> [..]
>
> From the link
> /
> "England, Their England
> A.G.MacDonnell's classic Novel
>
> England, Their England is a novel written in the 1930s. This novel has
> a chapter on Cricket, that is considered to be one of the best fiction
> writings on the game, and the funniest account of a cricket match. It
> is an excellent piece of humor. This is a must read for cricket lovers
> everywhere.
> I had read this novel long ago, and managed to get a copy of this
> book recently. I typed out the chapter on cricket, so that everyone
> can enjoy this book. Go right in, and laugh all you can!
> - Balaji Srinivasan."
> /


Come on, this is outright copyright violation.

While I enjoy the links that you take the trouble to post, omitting
those that violate copyright would be good.

Regards,
Jayen
 #3  
22.07.2003, 21:34
Spaceman Spiff
"Jayen" <rsc_poster> wrote in message
news:6e3c
> Cricketislife! <cil!> wrote in message

news:p48g
> > [..]
> >

>
> Come on, this is outright copyright violation.
>
> While I enjoy the links that you take the trouble to post, omitting
> those that violate copyright would be good.
>

are you sure that it is violating copyright?
i am not sure what the copyright laws are in england, but it is entirely
possible that something written in the 1930's is now in the public domain.
 #4  
22.07.2003, 22:05
John Hall
In article <YchTa.18364$0F4.7287>,
Spaceman Spiff <spaceman_spiff> writes:
>i am not sure what the copyright laws are in england, but it is
>entirely possible that something written in the 1930's is now in the
>public domain.


It seems unlikely. A few years ago, the international law on copyright
was changed so that, instead of copyright lasting for 50 years from the
date of publication, it now lasts for 70 years from the author's death.

But maybe the change wasn't retrospective, and stuff that had gone out
of copyright didn't go back in? Also I think "England, Their England was
actually written in the 1920s rather than 1930s, which improves the
chances of its being out of copyright.
 #5  
23.07.2003, 09:59
John Charnock
"John Hall" wrote ...
> Also I think "England, Their England was actually written in
> the 1920s rather than 1930s, which improves the chances of
> its being out of copyright.
>


Regardless of the copyright issue, the book is still in print and I
would recommend it to anyone who enjoys a good read. The
description of the cricket match is a highlight, but the rest of the
book is also well worth reading. If you don't want to buy it new
but live near a good second-hand book shop there is a good
chance you can pick up a cheap copy.

John Charnock
 #6  
23.07.2003, 12:17
Mad Hamish
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:05:35 +0100, John Hall <news_may03>
wrote:

>In article <YchTa.18364$0F4.7287>,
> Spaceman Spiff <spaceman_spiff> writes:
>>i am not sure what the copyright laws are in england, but it is
>>entirely possible that something written in the 1930's is now in the
>>public domain.

>
>It seems unlikely. A few years ago, the international law on copyright
>was changed so that, instead of copyright lasting for 50 years from the
>date of publication, it now lasts for 70 years from the author's death.


I thought after publication was only on work for hire?
The big extension that I'd heard of was on work for hire...
[..]
 #7  
23.07.2003, 12:31
Cricketislife!
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:17:17 +1000, Mad Hamish
<h_laws> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:05:35 +0100, John Hall <news_may03>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <YchTa.18364$0F4.7287>,
>> Spaceman Spiff <spaceman_spiff> writes:
>>>i am not sure what the copyright laws are in england, but it is
>>>entirely possible that something written in the 1930's is now in the
>>>public domain.

>>
>>It seems unlikely. A few years ago, the international law on copyright
>>was changed so that, instead of copyright lasting for 50 years from the
>>date of publication, it now lasts for 70 years from the author's death.

>


then how do these public domain sites are allowed then? The gutenburg
projects etc

like this one
http://www.nalanda.nitc.ac.in/resour...etext-project/

with PG Wodehouse works, etc..
 #8  
23.07.2003, 20:02
John Hall
In article <virshvo7hjir89pd12g7r5ficj87tb9gdc>,
Mad Hamish <h_laws> writes:
>On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 22:05:35 +0100, John Hall <news_may03>
>wrote:
>>I thought after publication was only on work for hire? The big

>extension that I'd heard of was on work for hire...


I'm far from being a copyright expert - indeed I should have included
the mantra "I am not a lawyer" in my last post. By "work for hire", I
take it you mean where the publisher rather than the author owns the
copyright? I don't know how that affects things.
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