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 #1  
04.12.2008, 14:17
Allan Yates
FYI... A This England article on Scouting in the UK circa 1946:

http://www.1stmerrickville.ca/docs/T...%20Article.pdf


Allan.
 #2  
04.12.2008, 15:59
Eddie Langdown
"Allan Yates" <allan> wrote in message
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> FYI... A This England article on Scouting in the UK circa 1946:
>
> [..]
>> Allan.

Alan,
Greetings! I seem to remember you are in Canada?
Well you may be interetstd to know that the campsite mentioned at Small Dole
is still there for you use when you come to visit.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/g0xan/gb4sbs/hillside.htm
While much will have changed in the Sussex area, a lot of what is decribed
can still be found by scouts who wander-off the beaten track along the South
Downs, as we often do.
I'm sure others will reply in more detail.

Eddie Langdown 6th Bermondsey London
 #3  
08.12.2008, 17:22
alansplodge
On Dec 4, 2:17 pm, Allan Yates <al> wrote:
> FYI... A This England article on Scouting in the UK circa 1946:
>

Excellent article - Ralph had it right when he said "We've been making
memories for a long, long, long, long time..."

My parents were given a year's subscription to "This England" as a
present once. It is an interesting blend of nostalgia, folklore,
customs and general appreciation of the English landscape and people
(maybe in a slightly too chocolate-boxy way); but I thought it also
has just the slightest hint of unpleasant xenophobia and right-wing
politicking about it. Maybe it's just me reading too much into
things...
Splodge.
 #4  
08.12.2008, 22:06
Eddie Langdown
"alansplodge" <alan> wrote in message
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On Dec 4, 2:17 pm, Allan Yates <al> wrote:
> FYI... A This England article on Scouting in the UK circa 1946:
>

Excellent article - Ralph had it right when he said "We've been making
memories for a long, long, long, long time..."

My parents were given a year's subscription to "This England" as a
present once. It is an interesting blend of nostalgia, folklore,
customs and general appreciation of the English landscape and people
(maybe in a slightly too chocolate-boxy way); but I thought it also
has just the slightest hint of unpleasant xenophobia and right-wing
politicking about it. Maybe it's just me reading too much into
things...
Splodge.

It's funny you should say that, a couple of little things made me think that
way; the letter asking for the best type of sissors for cutting eye holes in
sheets, the sweet artical on the traditons of noose -tying and the advert
for self ignighting crosses. But hey, I only buy it for the pictures.
Eddie
 #5  
09.12.2008, 11:30
Ewan Scott
"Eddie Langdown" <the3lang> wrote in message
news:nz2d
[..]
> politicking about it. Maybe it's just me reading too much into
> things...
> Splodge.
>
> It's funny you should say that, a couple of little things made me think
> that way; the letter asking for the best type of sissors for cutting eye
> holes in sheets, the sweet artical on the traditons of noose -tying and
> the advert for self ignighting crosses. But hey, I only buy it for the
> pictures.
> Eddie


I'd forgotten about this magazine. I saw it a few years ago and thought that
it would be interesting, lots of memories and John Hargreaves type stuff.
Then I started reading between the lines and I found it quite scary.

It is nice to read about old traditions, and past personalities - I see this
issue has an article on "Mr Pastry", how I loved him when I was a kid. And a
feature on Dinky cars, how I loved playing with them.... However, there was,
perhaps is, an underlying tone of that special kind of nationalism that I
don't think we can afford nowadays. There is a slogan on the contents page
about its circulation to Patriots around the world. Almost subliminal in its
message. There is a suggestion there that not reading this puts your
patriotism in question.

Oh, I shouldn't worry about the self igniting crosses, Eddie. The
Highlanders used a messenger with a fiery cross as a call to arms to defend
themselves against the invaders from the South ;-) In fact a Fiery Cross is
still the emblem of Callendar today.

Ewan Scott
 #6  
09.12.2008, 13:53
alansplodge
On Dec 9, 11:30 am, "Ewan Scott" <ewansc> wrote:
> Oh, I shouldn't worry about the self igniting crosses, Eddie. The
> Highlanders used a messenger with a fiery cross as a call to arms to defend
> themselves against the invaders from the South ;-)  In fact a Fiery Cross is
> still the emblem of Callendar today.


Don't worry Eddie, Ewan's not having a go at the English; most of the
Highlander-bashing was done by the Lowland Scots.
Splodge.
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