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 #1  
01.01.2009, 10:02
Oaf
Ey oop,

Arj Lrne compliments to all and sundry here in Ye Shedde.

Bought a new cubar yesterday which has an MP3 player on it... being
dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th century at last (yes, I
did mean to write "20th century"). Put one song on it which managed to
completely fill the thing up which ain't surprising as it's a 9.5
zvahgr song and in WMA format.

It looks like I can buy a "microSD" memory card which'll increase the
capacity of the thing but was gonna convert some of my music to MP3
format as I'm guessing it'll take less space. As such, just wondered
what fbsgjner people use to do said conversion.

Thanks for any suggestions,

Oaf
 #2  
01.01.2009, 10:17
coj
Oaf wrote:
> Ey oop,
>
> Arj Lrne compliments to all and sundry here in Ye Shedde.
>
> Bought a new cubar yesterday which has an MP3 player on it... being
> dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th century at last (yes, I
> did mean to write "20th century"). Put one song on it which managed to
> completely fill the thing up which ain't surprising as it's a 9.5
> zvahgr song and in WMA format.
>
> It looks like I can buy a "microSD" memory card which'll increase the
> capacity of the thing but was gonna convert some of my music to MP3
> format as I'm guessing it'll take less space. As such, just wondered
> what fbsgjner people use to do said conversion.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,


I use Audacity for all my MP3 requirements. (But I never listen to MP3
on a phone as you never know if it'll run the battery down and then you
need an important phone call). I have a freebie-to-me MP3 player that
cost about £20 if I want to listen to MP3.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
 #3  
01.01.2009, 10:39
Sn!pe
coj <c_o_jones_99> wrote:

> I use Audacity for all my MP3 requirements. [...]
>
> [..]


Seconded, it w*rks well on Mac OS X too.
 #4  
01.01.2009, 10:52
bobharvey
On 1 Jan, 11:02, Oaf <Mountain> wrote:

> It looks like I can buy a "microSD" memory card which'll increase the
> capacity of the thing but was gonna convert some of my music to MP3
> format as I'm guessing it'll take less space. As such, just wondered
> what fbsgjner people use to do said conversion.


As others have said Audacity is very good, but there are about a
million products that will 'rip' a cd to multiple MP3s, and look up
all the track names etc. on line.

Not sure what the current favourite is on winjows, I am still using
dBpowerAmp (whot I bought to get a proper franhoeffer (sp?) mp3
licence) and EAC . Cos I am mainly a penguin house these days, and I
use what comes with the appropriate desktop

To bulk convert existing wma to mp3 I would suggest something like
lame and a batch script, 'cos you can be in absolute control of the
process then.

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/
http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/
http://lame.sourceforge.net/

Then you might need a tag editor. I use one to add tags to MP3s I
have 'molished' by recording BBC programmes etc. Again I use whatever
is on the linux menu system, so I can't recommend anything on Winjows.

Which reminds me. The "listen again" of the carols from Kings was
missing the last 2 minutes. Fortunately I had tuned in my Sansa Fuse
to 94.5fm and told it to record an mp3 from there. You even get to
specify a finish time, but I went for the max. two hours and then used
Audacity to trip to length. So I have all of it. Well done, thou
good and faithful MP3 player, even if I do loathe your menu structure.
 #5  
01.01.2009, 12:38
Richard Robinson
bobharvey said:
> On 1 Jan, 11:02, Oaf <Mountain> wrote:
>
> To bulk convert existing wma to mp3 I would suggest something like
> lame and a batch script, 'cos you can be in absolute control of the
> process then.


I use lame, & second the recommendation (assuming it'll eat wma, of which I
wot not).

Also, to reawaken an old and pointless argument, if you have hundreds of the
little darlings to process, a shell loop or other such commandline construct
can save a lot of RSI compared with trying to do it in a pointyclicky.

> Then you might need a tag editor. I use one to add tags to MP3s I
> have 'molished' by recording BBC programmes etc. Again I use whatever
> is on the linux menu system, so I can't recommend anything on Winjows.


Ah, yes. Thanks to the people who put in a good worm for Archos mp3players.
I finally obhtug one, and it moreorless jbexeth. An'I'll get the tags sorted
out one day, honest. No, really ...

But, rsync doesn't seem to jbex at all. Does a FAT32 filesystem not have
datestamping ? Surely that can't be ?
 #6  
01.01.2009, 15:54
John Williamson
Richard Robinson wrote:
> bobharvey said:
> Ah, yes. Thanks to the people who put in a good worm for Archos mp3players.
> I finally obhtug one, and it moreorless jbexeth. An'I'll get the tags sorted
> out one day, honest. No, really ...
>
> But, rsync doesn't seem to jbex at all. Does a FAT32 filesystem not have
> datestamping ? Surely that can't be ?
>

Check the Archos is in HD mode when it's connected, not Windows Media
Device mode. The setting's on a player menu, and it's set for WMD as a
default out of the box. If it's in HD mode, it comes up as a normal
FAT32 drive on both my units. If it's in WMD mode, it'll only talk to WM
player. Confusingly, using XP in WMD mode, you can see the Archos, but
it comes up as a removable drive showing "No media inserted" in
Explorer. It may do the same when chatting to a Penguin.
 #7  
01.01.2009, 16:54
Graham
Oaf wrote:
> Ey oop,
>
> Arj Lrne compliments to all and sundry here in Ye Shedde.
>
> Bought a new cubar yesterday which has an MP3 player on it... being
> dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th century at last (yes, I
> did mean to write "20th century"). Put one song on it which managed to
> completely fill the thing up which ain't surprising as it's a 9.5
> zvahgr song and in WMA format.
>
> It looks like I can buy a "microSD" memory card which'll increase the
> capacity of the thing but was gonna convert some of my music to MP3
> format as I'm guessing it'll take less space. As such, just wondered
> what fbsgjner people use to do said conversion.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,
>
> Oaf


Easy CD-DA Extractor
 #8  
01.01.2009, 18:24
Richard Robinson
John Williamson said:
> Richard Robinson wrote:
> Check the Archos is in HD mode when it's connected, not Windows Media
> Device mode. The setting's on a player menu, and it's set for WMD as a
> default out of the box. If it's in HD mode, it comes up as a normal
> FAT32 drive on both my units. If it's in WMD mode, it'll only talk to WM
> player. Confusingly, using XP in WMD mode, you can see the Archos, but
> it comes up as a removable drive showing "No media inserted" in
> Explorer. It may do the same when chatting to a Penguin.


Ah, curses, I expressed myself carelessly. Thanks, but sorry ... yes, it is
switched to HD, what I meant was that rsync seems to copy everything
everytime, rather than the 'sync' bit happening - it's supposed to check
timestamps and only copy when necessary. Also it (the playergadget, not
rsync) seems to crash occasionally as I'm browsing menus; I think I may not
have caught all the characters in my filenames that fat32 doesn't like. But
it's getting there ...
 #9  
02.01.2009, 05:05
Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Thu, 1 Jan 2009 03:02:50 -0800 (PST)
Oaf <MountainOaf> wrote:

> It looks like I can buy a "microSD" memory card which'll increase the
> capacity of the thing but was gonna convert some of my music to MP3
> format as I'm guessing it'll take less space. As such, just wondered
> what fbsgjner people use to do said conversion.


lame is probably the best MP3 encoder around (it pays to study the
options of which there are many to trade off quality against size) - but
you'll need a WMA decoder to feed it with.

Audacity use lame internally to generate mp3s BTW.
 #10  
03.01.2009, 01:52
music-fan
On Jan 1, 7:02 pm, Oaf <Mountain> wrote:
> Ey oop,
>
> Arj Lrne compliments to all and sundry here in Ye Shedde.
>
> Bought a new cubar yesterday which has an MP3 player on it... being
> dragged kicking and screaming into the 20th century at last (yes, I
> did mean to write "20th century"). Put one song on it which managed to
> completely fill the thing up which ain't surprising as it's a 9.5
> zvahgr song and inWMAformat.
>
> It looks like I can buy a "microSD" memory card which'll increase the
> capacity of the thing but was gonna convert some of my music to MP3
> format as I'm guessing it'll take less space. As such, just wondered
> what fbsgjner people use to do saidconversion.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions,
>
> Oaf


eufony can probably help you with this matter.
http://www.softe.net
 #11  
10.01.2009, 22:36
Carl LHS Williams
In article <f83c0843-77ef-43b5-9c8e-6a9aa667d3db>,
music-fan <music-fan> wrote:
>On Jan 1, 7:02 pm, Oaf <Mountain> wrote:


I hfr LAME, wot is downloadable in source form and generally find-able
precompiled for most platforms.
 #12  
10.01.2009, 22:49
Richard Robinson
Carl LHS Williams said:
> music-fan <music-fan> wrote:
>
> I hfr LAME, wot is downloadable in source form and generally find-able
> precompiled for most platforms.


Will it do WMA ?


Or are there proggies that'll reconstitute WMA to wav, or something else
that lame can eat ?
 #13  
10.01.2009, 22:52
Andy Burns
Richard Robinson wrote:
> Carl LHS Williams said:
>
> Will it do WMA ?
>> Or are there proggies that'll reconstitute WMA to wav, or something else

> that lame can eat ?


VLC (or presumably most progs that hfr FFMPEG) will play wma, and can
transcode wot it plays into another format.
 #14  
10.01.2009, 23:46
Carl LHS Williams
In article <49693416$0$507$bed64819>,
Richard Robinson <richardR> wrote:
>Carl LHS Williams said:
>
>Will it do WMA ?


Ooh, missed that, I assumed he had plain dumps of CDs. But anyway, y'can
get mplayer to de-WMA WMA files into PCM format and pipe the output
straight into LAME, apparently:

http://ocaoimh.ie/2005/08/16/how-to-...om-wma-to-mp3/
[..]
 #15  
11.01.2009, 09:31
bobharvey
On 11 Jan, 00:46, Carl LHS Williams <ArK7prciXtWGb>
wrote:
> But anyway, y'can
> get mplayer to de-WMA WMA files into PCM format and pipe the output
> straight into LAME, apparently:
>
> [..]


I was doing my OOP recording by piping mplayer into lame, but on my
netbook it was too much jbex for the CPU unless I 'niced' lame at the
same time. I now save as .wav files, move them to a spool directory,
and have a daemon that converts anything it finds in there into mp3,
one instance of lame at a time.

On the big chamine at home I can still do about 15 lames in parallel,
but that won't fit in me luggage.

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