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#196
21.01.2009, 12:41
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:17:14 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6JPG> wrote: >I _love_ the idea of avoiding a buildup of condescension! I know many >places that could do with such a system ... (WTATBYLI?) > A joke made many years ago by a sorely-missed friend, so I have a particular affection for it :-) |
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#197
21.01.2009, 12:42
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:40:15 +0100, BrritSki <BrritSki> wrote:
>Jo Lonergan wrote: >> >> My new flat, when built, is going to have some kind of ventilation which >> allegedly will cool the flat overnight during hot weather by drawing in air from >> the outside and somehow sending it up and out taking the heat with it. As the >> windows will be triple glazed I can imagine that this will also help avoid >> condescension building up. > >Very necessary in Switzerland I'm sure ;) More le vice anglais, IME ;) |
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#198
21.01.2009, 12:52
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The message <th1en4d2a6q95q859cpsfrcfcga7n5bvfp>
from Jo Lonergan <jolonergan> contains these words: > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:16:00 +0100, Hbunnet > <johnlw.nospam> wrote: > >The message <0rvcn494lacvaqcfobmbbug666i1nm8c3o> > >from Jo Lonergan <jolonergan> contains these words: > > > >> The people who installed the double glazing also advised leaving all the > >> internal doors open when the house was empty, to help move the air > >> around. > > > >Wofe and I fundamentally disagree on this. I want to have all the > >internal doors closed, so that in the event of a fire, the fire is > >contained to one room. > If the house is empty, though, it will all burn in the end, won't it? > Even fire > doors are only supposed to give you half and hour. Even a cheap wooden door will give decent protection and can be enough to contain a fire until it self extiguishes. Obviously not a raging inferno but nearer the sort of fire which could start while you are away for a few days. Fire needs fuel, oxygen and temperature. Remove one of the three and the fire dies. I'm repeating advice received from working firemen at various courses I've been to. Wofe has never attended these courses hence goes for the "keep the house aired" option. |
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#199
21.01.2009, 12:59
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Jo Lonergan wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:17:14 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" > <G6JPG> wrote: > >> I _love_ the idea of avoiding a buildup of condescension! I know many >> places that could do with such a system ... (WTATBYLI?) >> > A joke made many years ago by a sorely-missed friend, so I have a particular > affection for it :-) > Affectation shirley ? |
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#200
21.01.2009, 13:03
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Jo Lonergan wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:40:15 +0100, BrritSki <BrritSki> wrote: > >> Jo Lonergan wrote: >>> My new flat, when built, is going to have some kind of ventilation which >>> allegedly will cool the flat overnight during hot weather by drawing in air from >>> the outside and somehow sending it up and out taking the heat with it. As the >>> windows will be triple glazed I can imagine that this will also help avoid >>> condescension building up. >> Very necessary in Switzerland I'm sure ;) > > More le vice anglais, IME ;) > Isn't it the fact (sorry, just been watching PMQs) that the English think they are superior [1], whereas the Swiss *know* that they are ? (Actually, I have very little knowledge about this having only spent a few short weeks in Switzerland, mainly skiing and the snow has been excellent and the lift systems efficient, so much to be superior about. [1] If superior equates to being condescending, I know it doesn't always, take my case.... :) |
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#201
21.01.2009, 23:38
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In message <806en49i8ti37vflug7an8d86992qmjfip>, Jo Lonergan
<jolonergan> writes: >On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:40:15 +0100, BrritSki <BrritSki> wrote: >>More le vice anglais, IME ;) > I remember that during my time in Germany (the middle of which would have been about 30 years ago, thus at the height of union power, i. e. a few years B. T.), "Englisher Krankheit" [the English disease] meant industrial action (there seemed to be a new strike reported [from England] every few days in those far-off days, to the bemusement of most of our hard-working German friends ...) |
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#202
21.01.2009, 23:49
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Jo Lonergan <jolonergan> writes:
>On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:44:04 +0000, Robin Somes <robin> >My new flat, when built, is going to have some kind of ventilation >which allegedly will cool the flat overnight during hot weather by >drawing in air from the outside and somehow sending it up and out >taking the heat with it. As the windows will be triple glazed I can >imagine that this will also help avoid condescension building up. i lol. i can't imagine that happening in _any_ house of yours, jo... >[1] Do pipes burst nowadays? It was a regular occurrence in my childhood. i've heard of one recently. presumably lead piping was more prone to bursting, and there's not so much of it around nowadays. i always leave the outside tap open (the stop cock inside turned off), to avoid bursts. it's worked so far... |
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#203
22.01.2009, 00:30
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In message <gl8c9e$k8$10>, Robin Fairbairns
<rf10> writes: [] >>[1] Do pipes burst nowadays? It was a regular occurrence in my childhood. > >i've heard of one recently. presumably lead piping was more prone to >bursting, and there's not so much of it around nowadays. > >i always leave the outside tap open (the stop cock inside turned off), >to avoid bursts. it's worked so far... Mine did (fortunately outside), and it appears to have been copper pipe. |
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#204
22.01.2009, 09:05
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Jo Lonergan wrote:
As the > windows will be triple glazed I can imagine that this will also help avoid > condescension building up. Very wise, I'm sure your place will be much more welcoming once you get rid of the condescension! |
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#205
22.01.2009, 15:41
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Colin Blackburn wrote...
>Chris J Dixon wrote: >> Perhaps we need to introduce a delimiter character to indicate >> "umbrella" should be read literally? > >When we mean umbrella (don't start that again) literally perhaps we >need to use the term "water-repellent parasol-type device" > But what happens when we want to write about something whose name we have forgotten and have also forgotten the usual name for the water-repellent parasol-type device? |
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#206
22.01.2009, 15:55
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Jenny M Benson wrote...
>In message <6t8jukF9ljdvU1>, Colin Blackburn ><news> writes >>When we mean umbrella (don't start that again) literally perhaps we >>need to use the term "water-repellent parasol-type device" > >I bought an umbrella (literally) once that wasn't water-repellant. Then maybe 'precipitation umbrellas' to distinguish then from the other sort? This is reminding me of the time when I used to teach Year 6 and I became aware that the children were starting to say things like "May I borrow your stationery pencil?" One day I asked a group of girls, whom I heard speaking in such terms, what they meant by this. The girls looked knowingly from one to another, and explained like this: Girl 1: "Well, you see, sir.... It's like this, sir. Boys have got pencils and girls have got sharpeners, if you know what I mean." Girl 2: "So when we are talking about pencils and sharpeners, we have to say 'stationery pencils' and 'stationery sharpeners' so that people don't think we mean the other sort." Girl 3: "...and 'stationery rubbers'." |
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#207
22.01.2009, 17:51
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Martin Clark wrote:
> Jenny M Benson wrote... > > Then maybe 'precipitation umbrellas' to distinguish then from the other > sort? > > This is reminding me of the time when I used to teach Year 6 and I > became aware that the children were starting to say things like "May I > borrow your stationery pencil?" > > One day I asked a group of girls, whom I heard speaking in such terms, > what they meant by this. > > The girls looked knowingly from one to another, and explained like this: > Girl 1: "Well, you see, sir.... It's like this, sir. Boys have got > pencils and girls have got sharpeners, if you know what I mean." > Girl 2: "So when we are talking about pencils and sharpeners, we have to > say 'stationery pencils' and 'stationery sharpeners' so that people > don't think we mean the other sort." > Girl 3: "...and 'stationery rubbers'." Oh yes, that takes me back.... One evening on a camping holiday many years ago, our daughters (aged - oh maybe 10 and 12) asked us directly what happened when a couple had sex. I took a deep breath (husband was suddenly unavailable for comment, being extremely busy with washing up or something) and explained as simply and clearly as I could. After I'd finished, I said, "I expect the other kids talk about this kind of thing at school? Are there things they say in the playground about it?" After a pause, one said cautiously, "Well, it's *very rude* for a girl to lend a boy her pencil sharpener!" |
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#208
22.01.2009, 18:44
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On 22/01/2009 Martin Clark wrote:
> Jenny M Benson wrote... > > In message <6t8jukF9ljdvU1>, Colin Blackburn > <news> writes > >> When we mean umbrella (don't start that again) literally perhaps we > need to use the term "water-repellent parasol-type device" > > > > I bought an umbrella (literally) once that wasn't water-repellant. > > Then maybe 'precipitation umbrellas' to distinguish then from the other > sort? Does this mean that we can expect references to 'umbrella umbrellas', when people can't remember what the approved term is? |
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#209
22.01.2009, 20:05
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In article <6trt4jFcdl9oU1>,
nospam says... > On 22/01/2009 Martin Clark wrote: > > Does this mean that we can expect references to 'umbrella umbrellas', > when people can't remember what the approved term is? >Is an umratic umbrella an umralla? Umralla: A device for signalling to fellow umrats that one cannot remember a particular word - or its spelling. |
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#210
22.01.2009, 20:09
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Plusnet wrote:
> In article <6trt4jFcdl9oU1>, > nospam says... > Is an umratic umbrella an umralla? > > Umralla: A device for signalling to fellow umrats that one cannot > remember a particular word - or its spelling. > :-) Though I still prefer to use Marjorie's husbad's coinage of umbrella for an object whose name one can't remember. (Dorter tells me off for using "one", she thinks it's the hoity-toity Royal One and that I should use you or we.) |
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