I am on an old Pipex deal which gives me 1 Mbps uncapped and no phone
calls for 23.44.

The new Virgin Media ADSL looks good at up to 8 Mbps uncapped and all
phone calls for 19.99.

Any advice, comments, opinions?

"Chris" <nospam> wrote in message
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>I am on an old Pipex deal which gives me 1 Mbps uncapped and no phone calls
>for 23.44.
>
> The new Virgin Media ADSL looks good at up to 8 Mbps uncapped and all
> phone calls for 19.99.
>
> Any advice, comments, opinions?
> --
> Chris

I used to be on that package before I migrated to Sky. Although I was only
paying £15 per month!
Sky, 16mb for only £10 per month.

"diy-newby" <asas> wrote in message
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>
> "Chris" <nospam> wrote in message
> news:fwuv
>
> I used to be on that package before I migrated to Sky. Although I was
> only paying £15 per month!
> Sky, 16mb for only £10 per month.
>I am on that package at £19.99 a month since last November. Phone cps
service has failed twice, the last time for a week and it was BT that sorted
it out in the end but told me they wouldn't do so next time. I could dial
out using BT prefix but had to pay for call. Had about £5.00 worth of calls
and quite a few of those were to Virgin to try to get them to do something.
Sent my itemised bill to Virgin for them to pay but they said they would
need an itemised bill, as they already have one I have just had to forget
that.
My best connection speed is just over 6000kbps and has been quite good of
late only dropping just below 2000kbps later in the day, prior to that it
was dropping below 500kbps most days and as low as 150kbps.
I migrated from NTLfreedom dialup which gave me good service for about 7
years but I will see what November brings when I will be up for renewal.

Paddy

"Chris" <nospam> wrote in message
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>I am on an old Pipex deal which gives me 1 Mbps uncapped and no phone calls
>for 23.44.
>
> The new Virgin Media ADSL looks good at up to 8 Mbps uncapped and all
> phone calls for 19.99.
>
> Any advice, comments, opinions?
> --
> Chris

See the terms and conditions for Virgin. Access is unlimited - not usage,
there is a difference. It's "limited unlimited" with network shaping and
the amount of data you can download is variable. the amount is not
specified as Virgin decide on the day by the look of it.
Tiscali do something similar for the same price but stay well clear. Make
sure whoever you go with have a call centre with people that are fluent in
English. Try phoning Virgin customer service and see what answers.

Chris wrote:

> I am on an old Pipex deal which gives me 1 Mbps uncapped and no phone
> calls for 23.44.
>
> The new Virgin Media ADSL looks good at up to 8 Mbps uncapped and all
> phone calls for 19.99.
>
> Any advice, comments, opinions?


Virginmedia$ is bankrupt.
90% of their income pays for debts.
10% pays for your service.
They have to steal 90% of your bandwidth services
because they can't pay for big pipes.
There are a lot of bribes changing hands
to prevent an inquiry into how this was allowed to happen.

"Chris" <nospam> wrote in message
news:fwuv
>I am on an old Pipex deal which gives me 1 Mbps uncapped and no phone calls
>for 23.44.
>
> The new Virgin Media ADSL looks good at up to 8 Mbps uncapped and all
> phone calls for 19.99.
>
> Any advice, comments, opinions?
> --
> Chris

If you want -

slow speed generally
horrendous pings ranging from normal 250ms to sometimes over 600ms
unbelievable variation in download speeds ranging from anything up the 8max
down to 56k dial up speeds depending on the time of day
an infrastructure that is overloaded with no possibility of expansion (see
other contributors point re: debt)
officially complete denial there is anything wrong with the service but
privately tech support will tell you different
invoking manual workarounds (i.e. manually reconnecting several times) to
try and connect to a less congested BAM (see forums in ADSLGuide)

then yes,
yes I can recommend Virgin ADSL

I stuck them from september last year to March before I binned them in
favour of Zen and since then - flawless top-notch performance is the norm.


g.

7 wrote:
> Chris wrote:
>>
> Virginmedia$ is bankrupt.
> 90% of their income pays for debts.
> 10% pays for your service.
> They have to steal 90% of your bandwidth services
> because they can't pay for big pipes.
> There are a lot of bribes changing hands
> to prevent an inquiry into how this was allowed to happen.

Is that libel or the other thing? Either way it's defemation unless you can
legally prove it.

Fat Freddy's Cat wrote:
[..]
> times) to try and connect to a less congested BAM (see forums in
> ADSLGuide)
> then yes,
> yes I can recommend Virgin ADSL
>
> I stuck them from september last year to March before I binned them in
> favour of Zen and since then - flawless top-notch performance is the
> norm.
>
> g.

Alternatively, my father was with them for a while and never had a minutes
bother.

Dave P wrote:
> "Chris" <nospam> wrote in message
> news:fwuv
>
> See the terms and conditions for Virgin. Access is unlimited - not
> usage, there is a difference. It's "limited unlimited" with network
> shaping and the amount of data you can download is variable. the
> amount is not specified as Virgin decide on the day by the look of it.
> Tiscali do something similar for the same price but stay well clear. Make
> sure whoever you go with have a call centre with people that are
> fluent in English. Try phoning Virgin customer service and see what
> answers.

I thought that was just the Cable side of things?

"Carl Waring" <email> wrote in message
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>7 wrote:
>
> Is that libel or the other thing? Either way it's defemation unless you
> can legally prove it.

Lets let the abuse team decide ;o)

"Carl Waring" <email> wrote in message
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> Fat Freddy's Cat wrote:
>
> Alternatively, my father was with them for a while and never had a minutes
> bother.
>


a minutes bother doing what?

surfing?
sending emails?

Virgin just about cope with those (although surfing I only discovered was
slow when I switched to Zen) - its all about what you are used to isn't it.

g.

Fat Freddy's Cat wrote:
>
> a minutes bother doing what?
>
> surfing?
> sending emails?
>
> Virgin just about cope with those (although surfing I only
> discovered was slow when I switched to Zen) - its all about what
> you are used to isn't it.

More like what you expect from it...

Carl Waring wrote:

> 7 wrote:
>
> Is that libel or the other thing? Either way it's defemation unless you
> can legally prove it.

Libel / defamation of who exactly?

Fat Freddy's Cat wrote:
> "Carl Waring" <email> wrote in message
> news:4879
>> a minutes bother doing what?
>
> surfing?

Yes.

> sending emails?

Yes.


> Virgin just about cope with those (although surfing I only discovered
> was slow when I switched to Zen) - its all about what you are used to
> isn't it.

True. I was just putting the other POV for balance :-)

7 wrote:
> Carl Waring wrote:
>> Libel / defamation of who exactly?

Well at as guess, Virgin Media :-/ Was it not obvious?