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#1
01.07.2009, 17:37
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The Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs has been refused parole by
Justice Secretary Jack Straw. Mr Straw rejected a recommendation by the Parole Board which backed the release of Biggs, 79. Mr Straw said Biggs was "wholly unrepentant" about his actions and had"outrageously courted the media" http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...lk/8129146.stm |
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#2
01.07.2009, 18:02
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On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:37:49 +0100, "DB." <anon> wrote:
> The Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs has been refused parole by >Justice Secretary Jack Straw. > Mr Straw rejected a recommendation by the Parole Board which backed >the release of Biggs, 79. > Mr Straw said Biggs was "wholly unrepentant" about his actions and >had"outrageously courted the media" > >[..] The only difference between Biggs and Straw is Biggs is in jail. Neither of them repent of their criminal acts |
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#3
01.07.2009, 18:20
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"DB." <anon> wrote in message
news:z165 > The Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs has been refused parole by > Justice Secretary Jack Straw. > Mr Straw rejected a recommendation by the Parole Board which backed > the release of Biggs, 79. > Mr Straw said Biggs was "wholly unrepentant" about his actions and > had"outrageously courted the media" > > [..] > It's all very similar to the way Myra Hindley was treated. The Parole Board would recommend her release but the Home Secretary would always overrule the Parole Board. The pretence would be that the Home Secretary had an insight into the prisoner's character that was somehow different from that of the Parole Board - the reality was that no Home Secretary wants to be criticised by the gutter press for releasing a notorious convict because it will lose valuable votes. It is a pity that the Home Secretary has the power to interfere. Maybe that role should be given to a senior judge instead. |
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#4
01.07.2009, 18:30
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AlanG wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:37:49 +0100, "DB." <anon> wrote: > >> The Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs has been refused parole by >> Justice Secretary Jack Straw. >> Mr Straw rejected a recommendation by the Parole Board which backed >> the release of Biggs, 79. >> Mr Straw said Biggs was "wholly unrepentant" about his actions and >> had"outrageously courted the media" >> >> [..] > > The only difference between Biggs and Straw is Biggs is in jail. > Neither of them repent of their criminal acts Bloody disgusting. |
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#5
01.07.2009, 18:32
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The Todal wrote:
> "DB." <anon> wrote in message > news:z165 > > It's all very similar to the way Myra Hindley was treated. The Parole Board > would recommend her release but the Home Secretary would always overrule the > Parole Board. The pretence would be that the Home Secretary had an insight > into the prisoner's character that was somehow different from that of the > Parole Board - the reality was that no Home Secretary wants to be criticised > by the gutter press for releasing a notorious convict because it will lose > valuable votes. That's a hard one. She'd have been murdered if she was let out, although arguable you're right she should have been - I'm not in a position to know. I do wonder if she was kept in because of the torch and pitchfork brigade for her own safety. [..] |
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#6
01.07.2009, 18:34
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"DB." <anon> wrote:
> The Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs has been refused parole by >Justice Secretary Jack Straw. > Mr Straw rejected a recommendation by the Parole Board which backed >the release of Biggs, 79. > Mr Straw said Biggs was "wholly unrepentant" about his actions and >had"outrageously courted the media" > >[..] What makes them think he would go back to robbing trains if he was released? Did he rob lots of trains while he was in Spain or something? |
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#7
01.07.2009, 18:45
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Edster wrote:
> "DB." <anon> wrote: >> > What makes them think he would go back to robbing trains if he was > released? Did he rob lots of trains while he was in Spain or > something? Jack Straw is part of the biggest criminal outfit a country has ever seen in this government. |
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#8
01.07.2009, 18:47
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On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:37:49 +0100, "DB." <anon> wrote:
> The Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs has been refused parole by >Justice Secretary Jack Straw. > Mr Straw rejected a recommendation by the Parole Board which backed >the release of Biggs, 79. > Mr Straw said Biggs was "wholly unrepentant" about his actions and >had"outrageously courted the media" > >[..] Well I thought one of the conditions for early release was an admission that what you did was wrong. Or is that incorrect? |
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#9
01.07.2009, 18:53
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Theodore wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:37:49 +0100, "DB." <anon> wrote: > >> The Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs has been refused parole by >> Justice Secretary Jack Straw. >> Mr Straw rejected a recommendation by the Parole Board which backed >> the release of Biggs, 79. >> Mr Straw said Biggs was "wholly unrepentant" about his actions and >> had"outrageously courted the media" >> >> [..] > > Well I thought one of the conditions for early release was an > admission that what you did was wrong. Or is that incorrect? In the Sex Pistols film Biggs advised everyone not to commit crime and that it doesn't pay. I'd say he was repentant. |
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#10
01.07.2009, 18:59
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On Jul 1, 5:37 pm, "DB." <a> wrote:
> The Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs has been refused parole by > Justice Secretary Jack Straw. > Mr Straw rejected a recommendation by the Parole Board which backed > the release of Biggs, 79. > Mr Straw said Biggs was "wholly unrepentant" about his actions and > had"outrageously courted the media" > > [..] > > -- > DB. I thought we were past such arbitrary bullshit. WM www.critest.com |
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#11
01.07.2009, 19:00
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The Todal wrote:
> "DB." wrote... >> The Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs has been refused parole by >> Justice Secretary Jack Straw. >> Mr Straw rejected a recommendation by the Parole Board which backed >> the release of Biggs, 79. >> Mr Straw said Biggs was "wholly unrepentant" about his actions and >> had"outrageously courted the media" >> [..] > It's all very similar to the way Myra Hindley was treated. The Parole Board > would recommend her release but the Home Secretary would always overrule the > Parole Board. The pretence would be that the Home Secretary had an insight > into the prisoner's character that was somehow different from that of the > Parole Board - the reality was that no Home Secretary wants to be criticised > by the gutter press for releasing a notorious convict because it will lose > valuable votes. > It is a pity that the Home Secretary has the power to interfere. Maybe that > role should be given to a senior judge instead. It should, and shame on Jack Straw who is himself not unaquainted with lack of contrition and courting of the media. |
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#12
01.07.2009, 19:08
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Jon Thomas wrote:
> The Todal wrote: >> >> > It should, and shame on Jack Straw who is himself not > unaquainted with lack of contrition and courting of the > media. It runs in his genes IRRC. Wasn't his lad picked up for drugs charges? |
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#13
01.07.2009, 19:12
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"Theodore" <theodorepike> wrote in message
news:0ll1 > On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:37:49 +0100, "DB." <anon> wrote: > >> The Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs has been refused parole by >>Justice Secretary Jack Straw. >> Mr Straw rejected a recommendation by the Parole Board which backed >>the release of Biggs, 79. >> Mr Straw said Biggs was "wholly unrepentant" about his actions and >>had"outrageously courted the media" >> >>[..] > > Well I thought one of the conditions for early release was an > admission that what you did was wrong. Or is that incorrect? Is that the same thing as repentance? I've done things that I admit were wrong, but I don't feel remorseful over them. I bet he wishes he hadn't robbed that damn train, he'd have been better off abducting and torturing a toddler and letting the body be cut in half by a train, he'd have been released years ago with a new identity, team of social workers and a few quid in his pocket. |
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#14
01.07.2009, 19:26
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On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 18:30:28 +0100, Johnny <jonwon> wrote:
>AlanG wrote: > >Bloody disgusting. I should also have said Biggs is less likely than Straw to cause anyone any harm if out of prison |
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#15
01.07.2009, 20:01
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"DB." wrote:
> > The Great Train Robber Ronnie Biggs has been refused parole by > Justice Secretary Jack Straw. > Mr Straw rejected a recommendation by the Parole Board which backed > the release of Biggs, 79. > Mr Straw said Biggs was "wholly unrepentant" about his actions and > had"outrageously courted the media" > > [..] > > -- > DB. The media is partly to blame. We heard stories that Biggs went to Hospital the same day that Thatcher went to hospital. Shows that Biggs has celebrity status, and he will no doubt make use of it in front of the gullible media. There is still some unwholesome bravado attached to his heist endevour; the glamourising of the 'great' criminals. Straw was right to keep him in prison. |
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