How would I go about 'developing' a basic application to use one of
these on a Mac? -

http://www.robot-electronics.co.uk/h..._rly16tech.htm

Rob

Rob <patchoulianREMOVE> wrote:

> How would I go about 'developing' a basic application to use one of
> these on a Mac? -
>
> [..]

Depending on what you want to do, it says:

'Drivers are available for Windows, Apple, Linux and Open BSD systems
directly from the FTDI website.'

Rob wrote:
> How would I go about 'developing' a basic application to use one of
> these on a Mac? -
>
> [..]
>
> Rob

if you're having to ask, it probably isn't going to happen...

Rob wrote:
> How would I go about 'developing' a basic application to use one of
> these on a Mac? -
>
> [..]
>
> Rob
http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/FT232R.htm

this is the homepage for the chip (FT232R - USB UART IC) that does the
talking,


http://www.downloadatoz.com/driver/i...s-x-intel.html

is the driver.

Peter Ceresole wrote:
> Rob <patchoulianREMOVE> wrote:
>
>> How would I go about 'developing' a basic application to use one of
>> these on a Mac? -
>>
>> [..]
>
> Depending on what you want to do, it says:
>
> 'Drivers are available for Windows, Apple, Linux and Open BSD systems
> directly from the FTDI website.'

Yep, got that bit! A driver is (typically) something to which an
application will call. Think of it as a layer between the device and the
application. What I mean to ask is how would I go about 'developing' a
basic application to use one of those on a Mac?

I used to use VB on Windows - just wondering if there's anything
equivalent or nearby fro Mac.

Thanks, Rob

humble.life wrote:
> Rob wrote:
> [..]
>
> this is the homepage for the chip (FT232R - USB UART IC) that does the
> talking,
>> [..]
>> is the driver.
>

Indeed. The thing is the driver 'needs' an application. I'm wondering
(from the responses so far) whether 'driver' means a different things
under Windows and Mac? Anyway.

The page I linked to gave an example of developing an *application* in
Windows. (Even) I could do that.

I'm afraid I can't link to the relevant part of the page because there's
no intra-page link, but it's the paragraph that starts: "Test program
and example source code" and goes on to say "To get the USB-RLY16 up and
running in the minimum amount of time we have put together an example
program . . .". The example is towards the foot of the page. I know
there's a lot of text there, took me a while.

Do you happen to know how to do the equivalent in a Mac? I'm guessing
you're not sure.

Rob

On 2009-07-02 09:11:29 +0100, Rob <patchoulianREMOVE> said:

> humble.life wrote:
>> Rob wrote:
>>> How would I go about 'developing' a basic application to use one of
>>> these on a Mac? -
>>>
>>> [..]
>>>
>>> Rob
>> [..]
>>
>> this is the homepage for the chip (FT232R - USB UART IC) that does the talking,
>>
>>
>> [..]

is
>
> Indeed. The thing is the driver 'needs' an application. I'm wondering
> (from the responses so far) whether 'driver' means a different things
> under Windows and Mac? Anyway.
>
> The page I linked to gave an example of developing an *application* in
> Windows. (Even) I could do that.
>
> I'm afraid I can't link to the relevant part of the page because
> there's no intra-page link, but it's the paragraph that starts: "Test
> program and example source code" and goes on to say "To get the
> USB-RLY16 up and running in the minimum amount of time we have put
> together an example program . . .". The example is towards the foot of
> the page. I know there's a lot of text there, took me a while.
>
> Do you happen to know how to do the equivalent in a Mac? I'm guessing
> you're not sure.

You would typically get the latest version of Xcode from Apple - this
is free, but requires a (freely obtained) developer account and then
write a program inside Xcode. Or if you're a Java person you'd probably
get the latest version of Eclipse from Eclipse.org instead, which is
also free.

BASIC doesn't seem to be hugely popular on the Mac any more, but
RealBASIC is available from www.realsoftware.com. It isn't free.

Chris Ridd wrote:
> On 2009-07-02 09:11:29 +0100, Rob <patchoulianREMOVE> said:
>> is
>
> You would typically get the latest version of Xcode from Apple - this is
> free, but requires a (freely obtained) developer account and then write
> a program inside Xcode. Or if you're a Java person you'd probably get
> the latest version of Eclipse from Eclipse.org instead, which is also free.
>
> BASIC doesn't seem to be hugely popular on the Mac any more, but
> RealBASIC is available from [..]. It isn't free.
>

Excellent, just the job, thanks.

Rob

Rob <patchoulianREMOVE> wrote:

> A driver is (typically) something to which an application will call. Think
> of it as a layer between the device and the application.

A grandmother is (typically) one of two women being the mother of your
father or of your mother. Either of them is able, with the correct
training, able to apply partial vacuum orally to the ova of a number of
avian species.

> I used to use VB on Windows -

That's OK, there's no need to apologise here.

> just wondering if there's anything equivalent or nearby fro Mac.

I bet you don't know what a foot in mouth incident that was.

Anyway, yes of course there is. The company that Microsoft copied all
the concepts for VB from, apart from the stupid decision to use a really
poor implementation of a poor language offers a multitude of programming
languages, third party languages and development environments.

All of them better than Visual Basic.

Steve Firth wrote:
[..]
>> I bet you don't know what a foot in mouth incident that was.
>
> Anyway, yes of course there is. The company that Microsoft copied all
> the concepts for VB from, apart from the stupid decision to use a really
> poor implementation of a poor language offers a multitude of programming
> languages, third party languages and development environments.
>
> All of them better than Visual Basic.

Glad to be of service :-)

Rob

Steve Firth <%steve%> wrote:

> I bet you don't know what a foot in mouth incident that was.
>
> Anyway, yes of course there is. The company that Microsoft copied all
> the concepts for VB from, apart from the stupid decision to use a really
> poor implementation of a poor language offers a multitude of programming
> languages, third party languages and development environments.
>
> All of them better than Visual Basic.

Half of me agrees with you. But the other half knows that
Cocoa/XCode is bit pants, actually. For entertainment try
renaming a project :)

R <me32>:
> Steve Firth <%steve%> wrote:
>> I bet you don't know what a foot in mouth incident that was.
>>
>> Anyway, yes of course there is. The company that Microsoft copied all
>> the concepts for VB from, apart from the stupid decision to use a really
>> poor implementation of a poor language offers a multitude of programming
>> languages, third party languages and development environments.
>>
>> All of them better than Visual Basic.
>
> Half of me agrees with you. But the other half knows that
> Cocoa/XCode is bit pants, actually. For entertainment try
> renaming a project :)

Here's a nice ugly shell script to do it for you:

<URL:http://www.phpinsider.com/xcode/renameXcodeProject.sh.txt>

I will say that in Eclipse, for example, renaming a project is a whole
lot easier. Eclipse is `a bit pants' in lots of other ways, though.

b.

In article <OGO2m.50147$OO7.36552>
Rob<patchoulianREMOVE> wrote:
> How would I go about 'developing' a basic application to use one of
> these on a Mac? -

> [..]

Have you written programs before ? Are you familiar with the
Developer Tools (Xcode and the other things) that come free with every
Macintosh ?

In article <7b39hvF21epirU1> Chris
Ridd<chrisridd> wrote:
> You would typically get the latest version of Xcode from Apple -
> this  is free, but requires a (freely obtained) developer account

Not any more. A copy of all the Developer Tools comes free with
everyMacintosh. Take a look at the DVD(s) that came with your Mac.

Simon.

On 2009-07-02 23:51:38 +0100, Simon Slavin <slavins> said:

> In article <7b39hvF21epirU1> Chris
> Ridd<chrisridd> wrote:
>> You would typically get the latest version of Xcode from Apple -
>> this  is free, but requires a (freely obtained) developer account
>
> Not any more. A copy of all the Developer Tools comes free with
> everyMacintosh. Take a look at the DVD(s) that came with your Mac.

That's why I said the *latest* version. I can't remember what ancient
version of Xcode came with Leopard, but it is always worth getting the
current version. Assuming you've got bandwidth to spare that is - it is
about a gig or so download.