Ronnie Biggs denied paroll

01.07.2009, 22:03

Pete C

Personally, I think this is sad. The man is helpless and dieing. Apparently
his unrepentant attitude was the deciding factor. Whatever his crime, this
is a sick decision.

01.07.2009, 22:25

Wally

"Pete C" <petcrow> wrote in message
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> Personally, I think this is sad. The man is helpless and dieing.
> Apparently his unrepentant attitude was the deciding factor. Whatever his
> crime, this is a sick decision.
> --
> Pete C
> London UK
That is British justice for you Pete, in fact in my opinion it isn't
justice, it's revenge.

Wally

01.07.2009, 22:47

Peter Parry

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:03:30 +0100, "Pete C" <petcrow>
wrote:

>Personally, I think this is sad. The man is helpless and dieing. Apparently
>his unrepentant attitude was the deciding factor. Whatever his crime, this
>is a sick decision.

I suspect the enthusiasm with which he would sell his story (quite
possibly already arranged) to various newspapers to profit even more
from his crime may have something to do with it.

01.07.2009, 22:53

Derek F

"Peter Parry" <peter> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:03:30 +0100, "Pete C" <petcrow>
> wrote:
>
>>Personally, I think this is sad. The man is helpless and dieing.
>>Apparently
>>his unrepentant attitude was the deciding factor. Whatever his crime, this
>>is a sick decision.
>
> I suspect the enthusiasm with which he would sell his story (quite
> possibly already arranged) to various newspapers to profit even more
> from his crime may have something to do with it.
>
How often can you sell the same story?
Derek.

01.07.2009, 22:56

Peter Grange

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:25:55 +0100, "Wally" <wally_905>
wrote:

>
>"Pete C" <petcrow> wrote in message
>news:c1u1
>> Personally, I think this is sad. The man is helpless and dieing.
>> Apparently his unrepentant attitude was the deciding factor. Whatever his
>> crime, this is a sick decision.
>> --
>> Pete C
>> London UK
>That is British justice for you Pete, in fact in my opinion it isn't
>justice, it's revenge.

The Great Train Robbers committed the worse crime possible. They made
the Establishment & Government look silly. IIRC "The Authorities" were
moving a vast sum of money in banknotes from Glasgow to London so they
could burn it. Hmmm..

01.07.2009, 23:25

Peter Parry

On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:53:21 +0100, "Derek F" <lordpilrigNOX>
wrote:

>> I suspect the enthusiasm with which he would sell his story (quite
>> possibly already arranged) to various newspapers to profit even more
>> from his crime may have something to do with it.
>>
>How often can you sell the same story?

Well if you are NuLabor about as often as you can re spend the same
money so quite a lot really. Biggs is probably still worth a hundred
thousand or so from some papers if released.

02.07.2009, 00:58

Tickettyboo

"Pete C" <petcrow> wrote in message
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> Personally, I think this is sad. The man is helpless and dieing.
> Apparently his unrepentant attitude was the deciding factor. Whatever his
> crime, this is a sick decision.

I keep reading in here about lack of justice in the UK, sentences that are
not long enough, the do-gooders shouldn't have their own way.
On that basis, how come the crime is lessened by the fact that the criminal
is ill, old and dying? ( and managed to evade justice for such a long time
that his original sentence may have been served by now anway)
We can't have it all ways, we either have laws and punishments for those who
do wrong or we don't.

02.07.2009, 01:13

Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°9 + on netbook

Tickettyboo wrote:
> "Pete C" <petcrow> wrote in message
> news:c1u1
>> Personally, I think this is sad. The man is helpless and dieing.
>> Apparently his unrepentant attitude was the deciding factor. Whatever his
>> crime, this is a sick decision.
>
> I keep reading in here about lack of justice in the UK, sentences that are
> not long enough, the do-gooders shouldn't have their own way.
> On that basis, how come the crime is lessened by the fact that the
> criminal is ill, old and dying? ( and managed to evade justice for such a
> long time that his original sentence may have been served by now anway)
> We can't have it all ways, we either have laws and punishments for those
> who do wrong or we don't.

Hear, hear !! The voice of reason.

02.07.2009, 02:40

Tickettyboo

"Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°9 + on netbook" <flyingnun> wrote in message
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> Tickettyboo wrote:
>
> Hear, hear !! The voice of reason.

Well, it wasn't actually a statement, it was a question. I am bemused. I
don't necessarily think its a good decision but I am usually of the
do-gooder point of view. I keep seeing opinion that crcumstances don't
excuse the crime ( e.g. young offenders who have bad home lives) Where and
when do we start to temper justice with humanity? To whom do we entrust that
desision? I get the feeling its when the popular press tell us to.

#10

02.07.2009, 08:56

Pam the goose

In news:7b2bhnF1oafijU1,
Tickettyboo <tickettyboo> typed:
>
> I keep reading in here about lack of justice in the UK, sentences
> that are not long enough, the do-gooders shouldn't have their own way.
> On that basis, how come the crime is lessened by the fact that the
> criminal is ill, old and dying? ( and managed to evade justice for
> such a long time that his original sentence may have been served by
> now anway) We can't have it all ways, we either have laws and punishments
> for
> those who do wrong or we don't.

My view, too, Boo!

#11

02.07.2009, 09:09

Michaelangelo

Tickettyboo burst on the scene, and said:
> "Pete C" <petcrow> wrote in message
> news:c1u1
>
> I keep reading in here about lack of justice in the UK, sentences
> that are not long enough, the do-gooders shouldn't have their own
> way.
> On that basis, how come the crime is lessened by the fact that the
> criminal is ill, old and dying? ( and managed to evade justice for
> such a long time that his original sentence may have been served by
> now anway)
> We can't have it all ways, we either have laws and punishments for
> those who do wrong or we don't.

Totally agree, Boo.

Biggs and his cronies left the train driver disabled for life. Because
of his escape and the 35 years he spent in Brazil Biggs has actually
served less than ten years to date.

#12

02.07.2009, 10:04

Parrotfish

"Michaelangelo" wrote ...
> Tickettyboo burst on the scene, and said:
>> "Pete C" wrote
....
>
> Totally agree, Boo.
>
> Biggs and his cronies left the train driver disabled for life. Because of
> his escape and the 35 years he spent in Brazil Biggs has actually served
> less than ten years to date.
>
> --
The headmaster of my Primary School had the misfortune to be the F-I-L of
Biggs.
It's probable that the shame of all the publicity led to his suicide.
Mr Powell was a good man.

#13

02.07.2009, 10:31

Michaelangelo

Parrotfish burst on the scene, and said:

> The headmaster of my Primary School had the misfortune to be the
> F-I-L of Biggs.
> It's probable that the shame of all the publicity led to his suicide.
> Mr Powell was a good man.

That is sad, PF. As they say, "you can choose your friends but not your
relatives."

#14

02.07.2009, 11:19

Frederick Williams

Pete C wrote:
>
> Personally, I think this is sad. The man is helpless and dieing. Apparently
> his unrepentant attitude was the deciding factor. Whatever his crime, this
> is a sick decision.

Had he not escaped from prison and fled to South America he's have been
home years ago.

#15

02.07.2009, 16:04

gruffydd

the only reason he came back, to 'do his time' was to get at the health
service.
his 30 years is not yet up

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