A Shahzad's FC bowling stats to the end of the 2009 season

Runs Wickets Average
1857 53 35.03

Compare this with the following English pace bowlers under the age of
30:
Runs Wickets Average
Clare 1481 51 29.03
Wagg 6778 206 32.90
Davies 5284 242 21.83
Newby 3505 105 33.38
Smith T 2879 84 34.27
Murtagh 7117 242 29.40
Finn 3002 94 31.93
Fletcher 870 30 29.00
Woakes 2690 96 28.02
Bresnan 7176 222 33.32

Now let me think, why would Shahzad have been selected before all of
those for the tour of Bangladesh....

Michael Carberry has also been selected at the age of 29 to tour with
England despite an experienced Test player Key being available and
younger uncapped players with good records such as Gidman, Denly, James
Taylor and Nash being available. Now let me think, why would Carberry
have been selected.... RH

Robert Henderson wrote:
[..]
> Bresnan 7176 222 33.32
>
> Now let me think, why would Shahzad have been selected before all of
> those for the tour of Bangladesh....
>
> Michael Carberry has also been selected at the age of 29 to tour with
> England despite an experienced Test player Key being available and
> younger uncapped players with good records such as Gidman, Denly, James
> Taylor and Nash being available. Now let me think, why would Carberry
> have been selected.... RH



do you suspect reverse discrimination..??

andrew

In message <w%j5n.28483$Ym4.4083>, Andrew
<andrew.fox33> writes
>> Now let me think, why would Shahzad have been selected before all of
>>those for the tour of Bangladesh....
>> Michael Carberry has also been selected at the age of 29 to tour
>>with England despite an experienced Test player Key being available
>>and younger uncapped players with good records such as Gidman, Denly,
>>James Taylor and Nash being available. Now let me think, why would
>>Carberry have been selected.... RH
>>
>do you suspect reverse discrimination..??
>
>andrew

You've got it in one.... RH

On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:22:30 +0000, Robert Henderson
<philip> wrote:

>In message <w%j5n.28483$Ym4.4083>, Andrew
><andrew.fox33> writes
>
>You've got it in one.... RH

Reverse discrimination is anti human nature. Our heads, the squishy
grey bits in the midde, like to forget things, it keeps their workload
down, so we have pigeon holes for brains, everything gets a ticket and
a pigeon hole. So your head doesn't have to remember all the details
about anything, it just hits on a few keywords and stuffs the idea
into the pigeon hole provided. You can see how ideas and opinions are
formed.
So stuffing an idea into the wrong pigeon hole gives the head a bit of
a shock, and causes confusion to the grey cells. Some humans use
different pigeon holing thoughts and sometimes this causes problems
for others, especially if those inviduals are in a position of power.

max.it

Robert Henderson wrote:
> In message <w%j5n.28483$Ym4.4083>, Andrew
> <andrew.fox33> writes
>
> You've got it in one.... RH


for what reason do you think those stuffy old Victorians at the ECB
would be reverse discriminating, ie weakening our team to let
foreigners in, what reason have they got to do this?

andrew

On 19 Jan 2010, Andrew wrote
> Robert Henderson wrote:

>>> do you suspect reverse discrimination..??

>> You've got it in one.... RH
>
> for what reason do you think those stuffy old Victorians at
> the ECB would be reverse discriminating, ie weakening our
> team to let foreigners in, what reason have they got to do
> this?

Ummm...because Henderson is convinced that the conspiracy against
white guys in favour of blackies comes before all other selection
criteria.

(You're wasting your breath arguing with the resident nigger-hater.)

On Jan 19, 5:14 pm, Andrew <andrewfo> wrote:
> Robert Henderson wrote:
>>
>> do you suspect  reverse  discrimination..??
>
> andrew

I have always wondered why people call it 'reverse discrimination'
Surely discrimination in favour of any group is just 'discrimination'?

I don't know about the merits of any selection so I am not entering
the selection debate except to say that often conspiracy theories are
exactly that.... theories.

In message
<1bc690b1-b18e-4c5c-b8ac-2d92c55c1171>,
"Dave (SA)" <david.baker.sa> writes
>> > those for the tour of Bangladesh....
>>
>> > Michael Carberry has also been selected at the age of 29 to tour with
>> > England  despite an experienced Test player Key being available and
>> > younger uncapped players with good records such as  Gidman, Denly, James
>> > Taylor and  Nash being available. Now let me think, why would Carberry
>> > have been selected.... RH
>>
>> do you suspect  reverse  discrimination..??
>>
>> andrew
>
>I have always wondered why people call it 'reverse discrimination'
>Surely discrimination in favour of any group is just 'discrimination'?

I prefer the term inverted racism in imitation of inverted snobbery. RH

In message <4b562b2d.50857703>, ?@?.?.invalid writes
>
>Reverse discrimination is anti human nature. Our heads, the squishy
>grey bits in the midde, like to forget things, it keeps their workload
>down, so we have pigeon holes for brains, everything gets a ticket and
>a pigeon hole. So your head doesn't have to remember all the details
>about anything, it just hits on a few keywords and stuffs the idea into
>pigeon hole provided. You can see how ideas and opinions are formed. So
>stuffing an idea into the wrong pigeon hole gives the head a bit of a
>shock, and causes confusion to the grey cells. Some humans use
>different pigeon holing thoughts and sometimes this causes problems for
>others, especially if those inviduals are in a position of power.
>
>max.it


Let's translate that, Max, human beings naturally favour their own
tribe. RH

In message <9Oq5n.28731$Ym4.27332>, Andrew
<andrew.fox33> writes
>> You've got it in one.... RH
>>for what reason do you think those stuffy old Victorians at the ECB

Translation: Liberal bigot internationalists with the mentality of the
rootless capitalist. RH
[..]

In message <Xns9D05EA7D5F06Ewhhvans>, HVS
<usenet> writes
>On 19 Jan 2010, Andrew wrote
>>
>Ummm...because Henderson is convinced that the conspiracy against
>white guys in favour of blackies comes before all other selection
>criteria.
>

Interesting to note both the liberal bigot's routine substitution of
abuse for argument and the routine excitement of liberal bigots in using
non-pc words.... RH

>(You're wasting your breath arguing with the resident nigger-hater.)
>
Failure to address the objective bias in these selections noted and
saved for future use... RH

Dave (SA) wrote:
> On Jan 19, 5:14 pm, Andrew <andrewfo> wrote:
>
> I have always wondered why people call it 'reverse discrimination'
> Surely discrimination in favour of any group is just 'discrimination'?
>
> I don't know about the merits of any selection so I am not entering
> the selection debate except to say that often conspiracy theories are
> exactly that.... theories.



reverse discrimination is just turning the usual pattern on its head,
when we start to discriminate in favour of teh people we usually
discriminate against , normally people of colour.

society discriminates against people who score lowly in values we
revere, in our case IQ tests.

now IQ tests were invented by white middle class males who do well at
the test for common cultural reasons......

people with different cultural backgrounds are not familiar with the
testing criteria so do less well, that is why women, working class
men and johnny foreigner all appear to be thicker than we are,
hence we discriminate against them

but the flaw there is that the IQ test is wrong in that it wasnt
broadly enough generated applied or interpreted, hence all this
discimination stuff is unsoundly based and needs scrapping.....


andrew

On 19 Jan, 23:03, HVS <use> wrote:

> Ummm...because Henderson is convinced that the conspiracy against
> white guys in favour of blackies comes before all other selection
> criteria.

Robert most probably wasn't on the Performance Program where
apparently "caught the eye of the senior management, including Andy
Flower, with his pace, control and desire to succeed". I'd rather
listen to the people who actually watch all these players frequently
than the words of a bitter old man with nothing better to do with his
time than whine in a 1950s way about those blessed darkies.

Richard

On 20 Jan, 04:33, "Dave (SA)" <davidbaker> wrote:

> I don't know about the merits of any selection so I am not entering
> the selection debate except to say that often conspiracy theories are
> exactly that.... theories.

That Robert has wasted most of his life impotently trying to prove and
do something about by whiny nom de plume letters to the Torygraph. I'm
sure we'll see on his gravestone how he was the man who made the
English cricket team white again. Or not.

Richard

Robert Henderson wrote:
> In message <Xns9D05EA7D5F06Ewhhvans>, HVS
> <usenet> writes
>
> Interesting to note both the liberal bigot's routine substitution of
> abuse for argument and the routine excitement of liberal bigots in using
> non-pc words.... RH
>
> Failure to address the objective bias in these selections noted and
> saved for future use... RH


cant see why these old victorian gits on the ecb would be biased in
favour of johnny foreigner, quite the reverse i would have thought


andrew