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07.02.2010, 14:03
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Are "home plugs", the things that provide ethernet over the mains
wiring, point to point or point to multi point? I may have requirement for two ethernet points that would be tricky to cable and I only have one free port on my LAN switch anayway. Will having one home plug attached to the switch and two more for the devices work? |
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#2
07.02.2010, 14:16
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"Dave Liquorice" <allsortsnotthisbit> wrote in message
news:news > Are "home plugs", the things that provide ethernet over the mains > wiring, point to point or point to multi point? > > I may have requirement for two ethernet points that would be tricky > to cable and I only have one free port on my LAN switch anayway. Will > having one home plug attached to the switch and two more for the > devices work? > > -- > Cheers > Dave. >> Multipoint - I've got three! Peter |
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#3
07.02.2010, 14:19
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"Peter Andrews" <p.andrews> wrote in message
news:5110 > > "Dave Liquorice" <allsortsnotthisbit> wrote in message > news:news > > Multipoint - I've got three! > > Peter > Just an additional point that, briefly(!), caught me out recently; they must all be plugged into the same phase - not normally a problem in the domestic environment but a community hall... Peter |
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#4
07.02.2010, 15:19
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In article <yZzbn.169215$6V1.128803>,
Peter Andrews <p.andrews> wrote: > >"Peter Andrews" <p.andrews> wrote in message >news:5110 > >Just an additional point that, briefly(!), caught me out recently; they must >all be plugged into the same phase - not normally a problem in the domestic >environment but a community hall... They also don't work well plugged into those extension leads with filters in them - aimed specifically at computer use! Nor do they work through electric meters - at least the standard one I encountered in a sared residence where the landlors wanted to use them to provide braodband, but each room had its own meter... Gordon |
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#5
07.02.2010, 15:50
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
> Are "home plugs", the things that provide ethernet over the mains > wiring, point to point or point to multi point? Multipoint. > I may have requirement for two ethernet points that would be tricky > to cable and I only have one free port on my LAN switch anayway. Will > having one home plug attached to the switch and two more for the > devices work? Yup. Alternatively you can get multi port homeplugs[1], or for that matter plug a conventional switch into a homeplug to add ports. [1] http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-pla-85-3e.htm |
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#6
07.02.2010, 16:22
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On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:50:11 +0000, John Rumm wrote:
>> Are "home plugs", the things that provide ethernet over the mains >> wiring, point to point or point to multi point? > > Multipoint. Thanks and every one else. Multiple phases or meters won't be a problem in this instance. > Yup. Alternatively you can get multi port homeplugs[1], or for that > matter plug a conventional switch into a homeplug to add ports. Ha a multiport one sounds good. I do have spare hubs/switches kicking about but that would require another wall wart to power it, even more spaghetti and (marginally) up the 24/7 power consumption. Any recomendations, I'm a bit of a beliver in you get what you pay for but balance that against the markets tendancy to charge what people will pay! |
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#7
07.02.2010, 16:58
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"Dave Liquorice" <allsortsnotthisbit> wrote in message
news:news [..] > Any recomendations, I'm a bit of a beliver in you get what you pay > for but balance that against the markets tendancy to charge what > people will pay! > > -- > Cheers > Dave. >> I've bought all mine from Solwise (www.solwise.co.uk) and if in stock have always arrived next day. Customer support is good too. Peter |
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#8
07.02.2010, 18:12
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On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:19:10 +0000, Gordon Henderson wrote:
> In article <yZzbn.169215V1.128803>, Peter Andrews > <p.andrews> wrote: > > They also don't work well plugged into those extension leads with filters > in them - aimed specifically at computer use! > > Nor do they work through electric meters - at least the standard one I > encountered in a sared residence where the landlors wanted to use them to > provide braodband, but each room had its own meter... > > Gordon ================================================ I think the latter case (not working through meters) is intentional and supposed to be one of the security features, as it prevents neighbours plugging in and eavesdropping on your activity. Cic. |
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#9
07.02.2010, 18:26
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Dave Liquorice <allsortsnotthisbit>:
>Any recomendations, I'm a bit of a beliver in you get what you pay >for but balance that against the markets tendancy to charge what >people will pay! I've used a few brands and the best has been Devolo, the 200 Mb/s variety. They've worked flawlessly despite having two extension leads and a 10-metre underground cable to contend with. |
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#10
07.02.2010, 19:07
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Dave Liquorice wrote:
> Any recomendations, I'm a bit of a beliver in you get what you pay > for but balance that against the markets tendancy to charge what > people will pay! Yup - the link I gave you, I buy loads of them from there... they seem to do pretty well in independent reviews as well. Note that link was to the 85Mbps version, they also do some 200Mbps versions designed to be able to cope with video streaming etc. Probably not worth it for ordinary shared internet access, but quite handy if you are going to move bulk data over the connection or do HD streaming. |
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#11
07.02.2010, 19:09
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Cicero wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Feb 2010 15:19:10 +0000, Gordon Henderson wrote: >> ================================================ > > I think the latter case (not working through meters) is > intentional and supposed to be one of the security features, as it > prevents neighbours plugging in and eavesdropping on your activity. You can also add encryption as well if you want - although you need a windows machine to run the utility that turns it on (unless you use the push button setup ones). |
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#12
07.02.2010, 19:52
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On Feb 7, 4:09 pm, John Rumm <seemysignat> wrote:
Similar problem some years ago with one of those FM (voice) intercoms that (supposedly) work via the electric wiring. Sometimes wouldn't work unless two outlets on the same circuit breaker etc. There's also some nasty RFI (Radio Frequency Interference) on the power lines these days. Surprised the regulatory authorities allow it! |
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#13
08.02.2010, 00:32
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On 07/02/2010 19:07 John Rumm wrote:
> Note that link was to the 85Mbps version, they also do some 200Mbps > versions designed to be able to cope with video streaming etc. Probably > not worth it for ordinary shared internet access, but quite handy if you > are going to move bulk data over the connection or do HD streaming. Go for the 200Mbps if you can. I've got a couple of ZyXEL 200Mbs homeplugs that I use to transfer backups to an NAS drive in a room away from my desktop (if they nick the desktop, hopefully, they won't go looking for the drive with the backups on it). It takes long enough at the higher speed, I wouldn't want to wait for the 85Mbps. |
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#14
08.02.2010, 07:59
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"F" <news@nowhere> wrote in message
news:nz2d > On 07/02/2010 19:07 John Rumm wrote: > >> Note that link was to the 85Mbps version, they also do some 200Mbps >> versions designed to be able to cope with video streaming etc. Probably >> not worth it for ordinary shared internet access, but quite handy if you >> are going to move bulk data over the connection or do HD streaming. > > Go for the 200Mbps if you can. I've got a couple of ZyXEL 200Mbs homeplugs > that I use to transfer backups to an NAS drive in a room away from my > desktop (if they nick the desktop, hopefully, they won't go looking for > the drive with the backups on it). It takes long enough at the higher > speed, I wouldn't want to wait for the 85Mbps. That would be up to 200Mbps, what speed does it actually run at? The homeplugs I had were running at about 10% of their rated speed so I ran cat5 to my shed and put the homeplugs on the shelf. |
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#15
08.02.2010, 09:15
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On Feb 7, 6:26 pm, Mike Barnes <mikebar> wrote:
> Dave Liquorice <allsortsnotthis>: > > >Any recomendations, I'm a bit of a beliver in you get what you pay > >for but balance that against the markets tendancy to charge what > >people will pay! > > I've used a few brands and the best has been Devolo, the 200 Mb/s > variety. They've worked flawlessly despite having two extension leads > and a 10-metre underground cable to contend with. Seconded about Devolo. I got so p****d off with Belkin wireless adapters I refused to buy anything Belkin and Devolo were next cheapest. They do what they say on the tin. Plugged 'em in (one connected to the router, one in kiddies bedroom) and the link just works straight away, absolutely no setup required. As has been said, you can then run a utility to enable encryption. MBQ |
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