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 #1  
03.03.2010, 11:50
Fevric J. Glandules
Why oh why oh why is it cheaper to buy stuff online from the US and
have it air-mailed, and then pay customs duty and VAT, than it is to
buy it online in Europe?

Perhaps I shouldn't take Levi's jeans as my example.
 #2  
03.03.2010, 14:29
Marc Wilson
In uk.misc, (Fevric J. Glandules) wrote in
<hmlltt$sm$1>::

>Why oh why oh why is it cheaper to buy stuff online from the US and
>have it air-mailed, and then pay customs duty and VAT, than it is to
>buy it online in Europe?
>
>Perhaps I shouldn't take Levi's jeans as my example.


It's a pain, isn't it? I've just ordered an ebook reader from the US,
because even allowing for all that, it's cheaper than buying it from
their UK arm (usual $->£ switch).
 #3  
03.03.2010, 15:02
August West
The entity calling itself Marc Wilson wrote:
>
> In uk.misc, (Fevric J. Glandules) wrote in
> <hmlltt$sm$1>::
>
>>Why oh why oh why is it cheaper to buy stuff online from the US and
>>have it air-mailed, and then pay customs duty and VAT, than it is to
>>buy it online in Europe?
>>
>>Perhaps I shouldn't take Levi's jeans as my example.

>
> It's a pain, isn't it? I've just ordered an ebook reader from the US,
> because even allowing for all that, it's cheaper than buying it from
> their UK arm (usual $->£ switch).


Buy UK made stuff, then you can gloat at how much you saved over the
USonians!
 #4  
03.03.2010, 15:56
Marc Wilson
In uk.misc, (August West) wrote in <87aauppf4h.fsf>::

>
>The entity calling itself Marc Wilson wrote:
>
>Buy UK made stuff, then you can gloat at how much you saved over the
>USonians!


1) there aren't any.
2) not true. Even some UK-made stuff is cheaper over there. Dunno if
it's still the case, but at one time it was cheaper to buy a Jag in the
US and ship it here than it was to just buy one. They charge what the
market will bear, and for many years we've put up with it.
 #5  
03.03.2010, 15:59
August West
The entity calling itself Marc Wilson wrote:
>
> In uk.misc, (August West) wrote in <87aauppf4h.fsf>::
>
>>Buy UK made stuff, then you can gloat at how much you saved over the
>>USonians!

>
> 1) there aren't any.


All my HiFi is (Linn, Cyrus, NVA, Crimson, Tannoy).

> 2) not true.


'tis for the HiFi stuff.
 #6  
03.03.2010, 16:06
Marc Wilson
In uk.misc, (August West) wrote in <87635dpchx.fsf>::

>
>The entity calling itself Marc Wilson wrote:
>>
>> In uk.misc, (August West) wrote in <87aauppf4h.fsf>::
>>
>>>Buy UK made stuff, then you can gloat at how much you saved over the
>>>USonians!

>>
>> 1) there aren't any.

>
>All my HiFi is (Linn, Cyrus, NVA, Crimson, Tannoy).


Well, me too, apart from Sony CD and MD decks. But in a lot of cases,
not. E.g. the ebook reader cited above.

>> 2) not true.

>
>'tis for the HiFi stuff.


Well, OK. We can still do cottage industries.
 #7  
03.03.2010, 16:28
August West
The entity calling itself Marc Wilson wrote:
>
> In uk.misc, (August West) wrote in <87635dpchx.fsf>::
>> Well, me too, apart from Sony CD and MD decks. But in a lot of cases,

> not. E.g. the ebook reader cited above.


Mind you, I don't buy very much new these days[0]. I got fed up, and
broke, being an early adopter. It's so much cheaper & more reliable to
trail somewhere aroubd 6-18 months behind the bleeding edge.

0] New boots & panties!
 #8  
03.03.2010, 17:15
Marc Wilson
In uk.misc, (August West) wrote in <871vg1pb5v.fsf>::

>
>The entity calling itself Marc Wilson wrote:
>
>Mind you, I don't buy very much new these days[0]. I got fed up, and
>broke, being an early adopter. It's so much cheaper & more reliable to
>trail somewhere aroubd 6-18 months behind the bleeding edge.


Me too. Even the Sony MD deck was off eBay, and the CD deck (which I've
had for Lo! these many years) was via a mate who at the time worked for
Sony, and hence half price (still a fair wedge: it's the CDP557ESD, with
the "Gibraltar" chassis- essentially filled with concrete - and has had
the Trichord Clock 1 modification). Still sounds nice with the Meridian
DAC (also pre-loved).
 #9  
03.03.2010, 19:45
Fevric J. Glandules
Marc Wilson wrote:

> 1) there aren't any.


The myth of Britain's manufacturing decline:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02...uring_figures/
 #10  
03.03.2010, 20:06
Fevric J. Glandules
Marc Wilson wrote:

> Well, OK. We can still do cottage industries.


Some of these "cottage industries" are quite big.

And you know where the "Mercedes" engines used in
Formula 1 are designed and manufactured?
 #11  
03.03.2010, 20:13
Richard Tobin
In article <hmmhoj$cfv$1>,
Fevric J. Glandules <fjg> wrote:

>The myth of Britain's manufacturing decline:
>[..]


Now show us a graph of manufacturing consumption.

-- Richard
 #12  
04.03.2010, 13:42
Ade
richard did gone and wrote:
>
> In article <hmmhoj$cfv$1>,
> Fevric J. Glandules <fjg> wrote:
>
> >The myth of Britain's manufacturing decline:
> >[..]

>
> Now show us a graph of manufacturing consumption.


Erm, it's pretty much exactly the same shape. Unless you believe there
are companies out there building vast stockpiles of stuff they don't
sell (car companies excepted, of course).
 #13  
04.03.2010, 14:38
Richard Tobin
In article <MPG.25f9d74c9e13d68e9896a8>,
Ade <spam> wrote:

>> Now show us a graph of manufacturing consumption.


>Erm, it's pretty much exactly the same shape. Unless you believe there
>are companies out there building vast stockpiles of stuff they don't
>sell (car companies excepted, of course).


I was guessing it had risen faster, with an increasing proprtion
of our manufactured goods imported over recent decades.

-- Richard
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